No to Chemo, Yes to Assisted Suicide

[delldude]

Dell...what is the difference between a government program that tells an 88 year old that they are not worthy of a triple bypass and a for profit insurance company telling a 35 year old cancer patient that they are not worthy of the treatment plan that was recommended for them? Oh yes....the 35 year old has the "freedom" to cash in his retirement savings, sell the house and max out credit cards to GET that treatment.

Yes and with Obamacare he just dies...........

 

[southwind]

Yes and with Obamacare he just dies...........

Then Nobama and his Posse come n' git whatever money he has left! ..........It's a win-win for them !

 

[delldude]

With our HC system so terrible..............I guess Ted went to Europe?

 

[tech2101]

With our HC system so terrible..............I guess Ted went to Europe?

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[Flying Titan]

With our HC system so terrible..............I guess Ted went to Europe?

Actually, I read that it was Duke University Medical Center - one of the best places in the country for cancer treatment. Are you covered there? Or is it "out of network"? If it's "out of network," you'll find out very quickly how little coverage you would actually receive. But don't worry, I'm sure that the hospital that your insurance company steers you to is almost as good.

 

[delldude]

Actually, I read that it was Duke University Medical Center - one of the best places in the country for cancer treatment. Are you covered there? Or is it "out of network"? If it's "out of network," you'll find out very quickly how little coverage you would actually receive. But don't worry, I'm sure that the hospital that your insurance company steers you to is almost as good.

You supply an excellent example of how us 'plebes' have to deal with the HC option whereas our gifted and oh so wise leaders have the best care you and I will never have.....

Nice post Titan......

I'm sure Obama and your hero's will tighten us up on their HC coverage....... :mf_boff: :mf_boff:

 

[KCFlyer]

Yes and with Obamacare he just dies...........

And under our current healthcare system, if the retirement savings isn't there, and the house has no equity - the 35 year old just dies too.

 

[KCFlyer]

With our HC system so terrible..............I guess Ted went to Europe?

You know...I haven't found a THING that claims our health CARE is terrible...our health care COVERAGE...well, that's another story. But...it does bring to mind something. Back in the late 60's, the family across the street from us were from Cuba. The dad was a doctor down there and gave it all up to come to the US. Because he was trained in such a "backward" country as Cuba, he had to retake med school. Turns out, he ended up TEACHING some things that were more advanced than we had here in the states at the time.

 

[tech2101]

You supply an excellent example of how us 'plebes' have to deal with the HC option whereas our gifted and oh so wise leaders have the best care you and I will never have.....
Nice post Titan......
I'm sure Obama and your hero's will tighten us up on their HC coverage....... :mf_boff: :mf_boff:

Delldude, you do know that all government employees pay for a portion of their health care See the data below). They have about 5 plans to choose from. There are HMO's, PPO's, and standard Fee for Service (FFS). One is BCBS PPO or standard. I will use that as an example because that is by far the most popular plan used by Federal Employees.

It is the same as any other person who gets BCBS. The Feds pay about 72% and the workers pay about 28%.

When I say government workers, that means all permanent Federal Employees. That includes The United States Senate and The United States House of Representatives. The President obviously has a different plan...He gets what he needs whenever he needs it. The one big perk for congress that other federal employees do not have is the in house pharmacy and emergency care for them. Other than that, they have a plan just like everyone else who does have health insurance converge. One big difference is that when you join the federal government, their is no denial of coverage of pre-existing conditions. Something that all of the health care reform proposals have in it.

One other thing, there is no dental and vision included in the health plan. It is optional additional coverage that costs more money. The BCBS health plan only offers the most basic dental (one x-ray and two cleanings/per year).

Here is how the premium is divided. This is from the OPM website and covers all Federal Employees (not temps).

How much do I pay for coverage?
Answer:

Generally, as a Federal employee, you share the cost of your health benefits premium with the Government. Please check our Premiums page for more information . You can also find premiums in your health plan brochure and the Guide to Federal Benefits. In addition to the health plan's premium, you may have to pay deductibles, copayments, or coinsurance.

The FEHB Handbook has additional information on how the Government's share is calculated. For most employees, the Government contribution equals the lesser of:

a) 72 percent of the overall weighted average; or

B) 75 percent of the total premium for the plan you select.

The amount you pay is the balance. That is, the difference between the total premium and the government contribution for your health plan. If you are enrolled in a health plan that has premiums above the average, the premium balance for you to pay will be higher.


Please note temporary employees do not receive a Government contribution toward the

This notion that congress will not be affected if there is health care reform is a lie. Granted, most of them have no problem paying the premiums, but they still have the same options as other employees.

The premiums for the BCBS Federal Plan increased this year by 13% (2008-2009)

Standard Option employee single out-of-pocket premiums will increase by approximately 12.9 percent for singles, an increase of $8.03, to $70.17 biweekly. The family coverage will increase by 13.4 percent, with out-of-pocket premiums increasing $19.44, to $164.58 biweekly.

Source = BCBS

The rate for a family in Pennsylvania (for your benefit) for 2009 is about $4315.08 per year.

 

[Flying Titan]

You supply an excellent example of how us 'plebes' have to deal with the HC option whereas our gifted and oh so wise leaders have the best care you and I will never have.....

Nice post Titan......

I'm sure Obama and your hero's will tighten us up on their HC coverage....... :mf_boff: :mf_boff:

I think we've already established - and you've proudly pointed out - that the rich, powerful and famous come here from around the world for healthcare. Unfortunately, that's not the care that most Americans receive. Again, would YOUR current coverage pay for the care that Kennedy is receiving? Since you seem to think that the current system is so perfect - seems like a relevant question. My guess is probably not. I know that we've already been through this with someone in my wife's family who thought it would. He's found out the hard way what it's like to have insurance company bureaucrats take ever higher premiums each year and then decide which doctor he can see and which hospital he can go to.

 

[Hello3B]

In order to create more support from seniors for Obama care the government has decided to rename senior care as the "caskets for clunkers" program.