Obama Administration's Excuse !

[Dog Wonder]

What ideas do they have to fix health care in the US.

The same idea they have about everything. #### about Obama.

 

[Hello3B]

What ideas do they have to fix health care in the US.

Not fixing it is better than this fix.

 

[Dog Wonder]

The Republican Way. Do nothing and wait for the return of the 1950s.

 

[Ms Tree]

Not fixing it is better than this fix.

Sounds like the response of someone who has insurance, never had to pay through the nose for minor surgeries and has no productive ideas how to fix a system that is terminally broken.

 

[muff daddy]

Terminally broken due to mandated medicare costs passed on to those who can't afford it.

 

[Hello3B]

Sounds like the response of someone who has insurance, never had to pay through the nose for minor surgeries and has no productive ideas how to fix a system that is terminally broken.

Yes, insurance I pay for. Just spent two nights at the emergency room with my mother in law and did not see anyone turned away. i can bet some did not have insurance. some even had an interpreter supplied. pretty sweet eh?

productive ideas? tort reform, competing insurance companies

 

[muff daddy]

Yes, insurance I pay for. Just spent two nights at the emergency room with my mother in law and did not see anyone turned away. i can bet some did not have insurance. some even had an interpreter supplied. pretty sweet eh?

productive ideas? tort reform, competing insurance companies

Wait to see what they charged vs what your insurance company pays. That's where the guy without coverage gets had, paying for the government mandated medicare rates differences below actual cost.

 

[Ms Tree]

Yes, insurance I pay for. Just spent two nights at the emergency room with my mother in law and did not see anyone turned away. i can bet some did not have insurance. some even had an interpreter supplied. pretty sweet eh?

productive ideas? tort reform, competing insurance companies

Do you pay for all of it or does your employer help?


Hospitals cannot legally turn away a patient that requires care but does not have coverage. That is a large part of the cost problem right there. People who do not have health care use the ER as a primary care physician. Much more costly to treat a problem when you are in ER rather than a family doctor who can treat the issue before it gets out of hand.


Then there is the exorbitant cost of care even if a person does have coverage. I had a hernia a few years back. I was in the hospital at 6a and was on my way home by 2p. My cost was over $3k. My mother broke her arm when she fell. Needed several screws and two plates in her arm. She was in a semi-private room for 11 days. PT each day and IV antibiotics. Her cost was $5k for the entire thing. Of course she was in Berlin at the time.


The doctors and hospitals would love to have tort reform. That way when they screw up it will not cost them as much. The principle behind a law suit is that it needs to be a disincentive for someone to do something. If a hospital or doctor can loose their shirt by cutting corners they are less inclined to do so.


Insurance companies can compete on the state level and how has that worked for us?


I think the biggest problem with health care is that it is a profit based system. If doctors and hospitals make money based off of what test or procedures they conduct, what is their motivation for not conducting unnecessary test? If I am having heart palpitations I am not exactly in the position to shop around for a better deal. My hernia had to be fixed and fixed quickly. Again, not exactly in the position to shop around for a deal.


My brother in law had to have open heart surgery to replace two bad valves. They screwed up and did not know his gallbladder was infected. The infection nearly killed him. The infection damaged the two replacement valves so they had to open him up a second and replace them again. AARP bills totaled over $1 million. Since there is a $250k cap there was not a lawyer who was willing to take it. Too much work, not enough pay out. Go figure.


My dad fell down about 6 years ago or so and broke his femur just below the hip. They put in a piece of titanium with several screws to hold it all together. One of the screws was put in to tight and the Dr busted the head off. Over the years the head migrated to his buttock and cause excruciating pain while siting. They took several xrays and such but could not locate the problem (or at least would not admit to it). He finally went to his own doctor out of net work to get an opinion. That doc had no problem finding the screw. Said the whole plate and all should come out. He did the surgery ( I think it was about $20k-$25k) and gave it all to my dad. We brought into the original Dr. He said my dad must have broken the screw by stress. I offered the Dr $1k if he could take one of the remaining screws and bend or break it with his bare hands. That pretty much ended that conversation. Again since it's CA there is a $250k limit on pain and suffering so no lawyer would take the case even though it was easily provable that the Dr screwed up and lied about it to boot.


The bottom line is so long as someone is making a profit off your pain and suffering, you will not get fair and reasonable pricing for treatment.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Yes, insurance I pay for. Just spent two nights at the emergency room with my mother in law and did not see anyone turned away. i can bet some did not have insurance. some even had an interpreter supplied. pretty sweet eh?

Were they driving Cadillacs

 

[SparrowHawk]

What ideas do they have to fix health care in the US.

Well the answer is a free market approach. The real problem is two fold. One the consumer is spending someone else's money. Two the government is responsible for 50% of current spending. If you do not change those 2 things you're merely rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

[Ms Tree]

I'd prefer to get away from a profit based system of health care. Someone or something making a profit based on my illness does not give be a great deal of confidence.

 

[xUT]

I'd prefer to get away from a profit based system of health care. Someone or something making a profit based on my illness does not give be a great deal of confidence.

Dr. Kim, Dr. Rashesh, etc... didn't come here because they were benevolent to Merikan Humanity. They were needed more in their own countries.
They came here for the bucks!
A couple of years with an HMO and slam bam Private practice (on the side).
Our Doctors are no worse.
If you want a 'pure' capitalist society, then the poor die.
Simple economics.
B) xUT

 

[Ms Tree]

Dr. Kim, Dr. Rashesh, etc... didn't come here because they were benevolent to Merikan Humanity. They were needed more in their own countries.
They came here for the bucks!
A couple of years with an HMO and slam bam Private practice (on the side).
Our Doctors are no worse.
If you want a 'pure' capitalist society, then the poor die.
Simple economics.
B) xUT

Sorry but I am not sure what point you making.

 

[southwind]

Sorry but I am not sure what point you making.

I think the question is "Would you work for free ?"

 

[Dog Wonder]

Depends on the cause. Do you ever do volunteer work?