Obama: 'War In Iraq Is Over'; All Troops Will Withdraw By Year's End

[tech2101]

The Iran thing.....they get a nuke, its inbound for Israel no if's, ands or buts. The Ayatollah and that little clown both subscribe to the 12th Mahdi thing....the little clown is all over the media about accelerating the return of the 12th Imam through creating global chaos so the Imam will return and they can spread Islam the world over...Look it up......

Israel knows this.....and they are soon going to have to do something......take it to the bank.

Ron Paul says Iran would never attack Israel.

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[delldude]

Ron Paul says Iran would never attack Israel.

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Delldude says Ron Paul will never be elected President


Ron Paul can not speak for those in charge in Iran and if what they have publicly claimed is their goal.....Houston, we've got a problem.

Here's the latest from 777's favorite source: (couldn't find anything on WND)

BREAKING NEWS - Alex Jones says Pentagon sources say "War in Iran Imminent" within 2 weeks. Israel to attack Iran within 2 weeks says Lt. Colonel Anthony Shaffer and Dr. Steve Pieczenik. Logistical support is in place for attack.

As a cover for Fast & Furious, and President Obamas plunging poll numbers the Obama administration has readied and coordinated a planned attack on Iran by Israel within the next 2 weeks.

Update : We are on the verge of WW3. Dr. Steve Pieczenik has confirmed multiply sources say there is is a 'green light'. Yesterday, Colonel Anthony Shaffer informed Judge Andrew Napolitano last night on 'Freedom Watch' that FBI sources said something really big was brewing. Israel stated it wanted to go in right away. Pieczenik continued by stating If the Iranians close the Straits of Hormus, the United States will intervene. Several months ago, the Israelis were supplied 'Bunker Busters and missiles in preparation for the big event.

Bet Obama doesn't think this will kick it up a notch in the poll's?

 

[tech2101]

Delldude says...

yeah, but my flag is bigger than your flag. 😛

 

[SparrowHawk]

Ron Paul says Iran would never attack Israel.

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I think Ron Paul is right under certain circumstances. If the US is out of Iraq & Afghanistan then they might be tempted to attack Israel. Thar would be very very dumb as Israel would nuke them into the stone age.

I would be far more worried about Iran attempting to gain control of Iraq, Pakistan & Afghanistan in order to further expand their influence in the region.

For Iran to directly attack the US is a remote possibility. However would a Ron Paul, "Trade with everyone, Alliances with no one" foreign policy keep Iran at bay as to move on either Israel or the US would be seen as naked aggression and they'd cease to exist as a nation.

 

[delldude]

I think Ron Paul is right under certain circumstances. If the US is out of Iraq & Afghanistan then they might be tempted to attack Israel. Thar would be very very dumb as Israel would nuke them into the stone age.

I would be far more worried about Iran attempting to gain control of Iraq, Pakistan & Afghanistan in order to further expand their influence in the region.

For Iran to directly attack the US is a remote possibility. However would a Ron Paul, "Trade with everyone, Alliances with no one" foreign policy keep Iran at bay as to move on either Israel or the US would be seen as naked aggression and they'd cease to exist as a nation.

You need to research the 12th Mahdi/12th Imam and see what these clowns are up to.
Don't worry.....if I'm wrong, there will be plenty of sand to bury ones head in.

 

[delldude]

For Iran to directly attack the US is a remote possibility. However would a Ron Paul, "Trade with everyone, Alliances with no one" foreign policy keep Iran at bay as to move on either Israel or the US would be seen as naked aggression and they'd cease to exist as a nation.

Alliance with no one opens the door to Russia and China filling the void. 😉

 

[777 fixer]

Here's the latest from 777's favorite source: (couldn't find anything on WND)

Thanks for the chuckle dell. 😀

 

[xUT]

As opposed to your first hand experience in Iran and NK? 🙄

At least I have lived in the ME and have a clue. Lived in South Korea as well.
You can continue to keep your head in the sand but living reality is better than reading.

 

[xUT]

What if the world is flat? We are both rendering opinions. He has nothing to back it up other than what he has read or heard unless he is claiming he has been to both Iran and NK and spoken with their state leaders. I am operating under the assumption that he has not done so unless he offers proof. So his opinion is based on things that he read as well. OH my.

Never said I was in Iran or NK.

I lived in the ME and South Korea. Seen it first hand, lived there, talked to the 'people'. It is from my experience and not from some op/ed piece. I didn't read it, I 'LIVED' it.

Believe what you want.

If what he says is true then we are all in quite a bit of trouble and as far as Iran is concerned there is not much we can do about it. NK is a ant hill. They have a massive army but they are poorly trained and equipped. It has been argued that given a conflict there would be massive defections. No way to know what that little midget and his generals will do when cornered. China needs to step in and control their unruly child.

NK is not an anthill. China still supports NK and Vietnam. Both support their agenda.
If it were not for the Chinese, the Korean war would be over.

Laugh all you want.

 

[delldude]

At least I have lived in the ME and have a clue. Lived in South Korea as well.
You can continue to keep your head in the sand but living reality is better than reading.

Duh...........

If what he says is true then we are all in quite a bit of trouble and as far as Iran is concerned there is not much we can do about it. NK is a ant hill. They have a massive army but they are poorly trained and equipped. It has been argued that given a conflict there would be massive defections. No way to know what that little midget and his generals will do when cornered. China needs to step in and control their unruly child.

Tell it to the US soldiers who were enjoying Thanksgiving dinner when NK over ran their outposts and killed them without any regard.

 

[xUT]

Duh...........




Tell it to the US soldiers who were enjoying Thanksgiving dinner when NK over ran their outposts and killed them without any regard.

Never happen again so says kitty.
China would never send troops again, so says kitty.

DOH!

 

[delldude]

Never happen again so says kitty.
China would never send troops again, so says kitty.

DOH!

My bad.......Chi-coms.......

 

[xUT]

My bad.......Chi-coms.......

Battle of Chosin Reservoir

Surprised by the Marine landing at Wonsan,China's Chairman Mao Zedong called for the immediate destruction of the ROK Capital Division, ROK 3rd Infantry Division, US 1st Marine Division, and US 7th Infantry Division in a telegraph to Commander Song Shi-Lun of the PVA 9th Army on 31 October. Under Mao's urgent orders, the 9th Army was rushed into North Korea on 10 November. Undetected by UN intelligence, the 9th Army quietly entered the Chosin Reservoir area on 17 November, with the 20th Corps of the 9th Army relieving the 42nd Corps near Yudami-ni.

DOH!

 

[DarkSnowyNight]

At least I have lived in the ME and have a clue...

Good. Then you know that staying in SA for a bit and living in Iran are two completely different things. Having spent several thousand hours in both locales, and away from americanised installations to boot, I can say without concern of contradiction that all comparisons are virtually irrelevant. Esfahan and KKMC ("Emerald City") are not interchangeable...

Troops coming home

Personally I think it is a mistake but I do not see any alternative. I believe in the you break it you buy policy We went in not just to topple Hussein but as an occupation force that was trying to rebuild the country. That was a failed venture from the get go. Iraq is probably going to break up into three parts controlled by the three factions. Iran is chomping at the bit to stick their hands in the pot. I would not be surprised if the sectarian violence explodes after we leave and tens of thousands if not more die in the ensuing violence. What a cluster phuck. We screw up and others get to pay the consequences.

Having skin in the game (I recently started working for a major transportation contractor), I do not welcome this news, though again, I'm sure that's for personal reasons. In a larger, more macro sense, I'm not sure how I feel about it. While I do believe that america has no place in the ME (and frankly vice versa WRT politics), with the notable exception of Israel, of course.

Concerning Iran, like everyone else here, I have no idea if they will ever actually attack anybody on a large scale. This country does a great job going around having no idea about what life in Iran is actually like (If we did, we might very well sell out the Saudis and effect a change in "alliance" as the Iranian outlook, is in general, a great deal less ideologically extreme).

I can say that I doubt it will happen. As we saw a few summers back, Iran has its own difficulties keeping its population subjugated. It's in fact likely that things there are a great deal less stable then we imagine. My time there certainly indicated that people are a lot less enthralled with their leadership then we imagine. It's tough to imagine that orders to initiate a conflict that could severely damage the standard of living they do have would be blindly followed. We are, after all, well within living memory of an event that gives Iranians every reason to view both the us and their own leadership with profound distrust. The '80s weren't that long ago...

 

[delldude]

Yeah......looking like the sixties weren't either.