On-board saftey feared

[UPNAWAY]

I agree, most of which is nothing more than PR and PC!
I once spent 15 minutes and had 3 TSA sups look at my "pepper grinder" you know like the ones at Olive Garden when they come by to pepper your salid. Mine was in it's box and was hand painted an numbered by a famous artist. They where concearned that I would hit someone with it. They obviously had know idea what I paid for it becuase I wouldn't have hit anyone with that valuable treasure! :down:

 

[N965VJ]

<SNIP>...flights these days, can turn into the jerry Springer show!

Yes.

Some guy got “jumpyâ€￾ on my flight and found himself quickly subdued by the pax before I could get there.

Turned out to be nothing.

Note to the Bad Guys; pax will not sit and take it. Crew will not sit and take it. If you think taking over an aircraft is a viable option you are sadly mistaken.

<SNIP>If anyone wants to see real security measures, go overseas.

Which gave me a metal serrated knife to cut through my Tourist Class chicken last week.

 

[local 12 proud]

As a flier I am not concerned. Basically any trained fighter would probably be much more lethal than I would be even if I had a knife on a plane. Let alone how easy it is to make weapons out of every day objects (see any prison). What will keep us safe is no pax will ever let hijackers overpower them and take over a plane -- back on 9/11 people would hijack planes, ask for money or something, and then when they get it, let everyone go. Now we know that is not likely, and EVERYONE would fight back. That is more security than the bloated, waste of money TSA can ever provide, no matter what they allow in and out of planes.

precisely....the next knuckle head who even says the word hijack will be beaten beyond rocognition.

 

[allunionsdeceive]

Check out the AFA website. They are furious :angry:. While some people think a screwdriver is harmless, others fear it can be sharpen into a dangerous blade. Here's a partial quote from the article..."The website is www.leaveallbladesbehind.com and is a new tool to tell TSA and Congress that it is wrong to put flight attendants and passengers at risk because they can not focus on more than one task at a time. The Director of TSA, Kip Hawley, has stated that they (the TSA) need to focus on keeping explosives off commercial flights. We could not agree more but not at the expense of the safety of those in the aircraft cabin. It should not be one or the other but both."In addition, yes the cockpit door has been fortified but, the fwd bathroom wall has not and it is a weak area that TSA is aware of. Why take the chance...vote no please.

next it will be down through the floor and down to the bag pit then fwd to avionics bay then up through floor into flightdeck.

 

[calibrator]

Why is AFA distorting the truth, wasting money and scaring people with such shrill nonsense?
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Because the majority are females scared of the dark and the other male members are “mostlyâ€￾ guys wishing they were born with breasts, they feel they have been cursed not having them. The PC term is Gay, the real term I can't print. But in my book they are freaks of nature, like mutants.


Now I’ll be attacked by one for being nasty and mean spirited. 🙄 Just don't bite and scratch me

 

[FWAAA]

Why is AFA distorting the truth, wasting money and scaring people with such shrill nonsense?
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Because the majority are females scared of the dark and the other male members are “mostlyâ€￾ guys wishing they were born with breasts, they feel they have been cursed not having them. The PC term is Gay, the real term I can't print. But in my book they are freaks of nature, like mutants.
Now I’ll be attacked by one for being nasty and mean spirited. 🙄 Just don't bite and scratch me

Holy Cow! You may be right, but that ain't gonna go over real well around here.

I thought my posting telling the FAs to "put down the Cosmo and US Weekly and think for a change" was gonna get me flamed, but thanks for taking the hit (and the heat) for me. I owe ya one. 😀

 

[phl/yyz]

More irrational fear. Afraid of small screwdrivers, scissors, pliers and wrenches?

If so, I'd suggest counseling or a career change. Ever since September 11, 2001, glass bottles have been allowed. Break one of those and you could practically slice a head off.

Afraid of aluminum cans? Break one in half, and you could get a very nasty slash.

What about razor blades? Doesn't take too much time or smarts to break a disposable or Mach 3 blade assembly apart, add some tape (also never prohibited) and you've got a nice prison-style knife.

FAs who are so easily spooked (at the thought of a more sensible and relaxed prohibited items list) are being betrayed by their emotions rather than dispalying rational, logical thought processes.

This is one area where Hawley and the TSA have got it right. Too bad small swiss army knives weren't also allowed.

very well said...afa sent me a link to ask TSA to not change rule's I said no way any thing to speed up the process hell my ink pen should be added to the list...ohh I am getting scared

 

[SKY HIGH]

Because the majority are females scared of the dark and the other male members are “mostlyâ€￾ guys wishing they were born with breasts, they feel they have been cursed not having them. The PC term is Gay, :

sky high states:
Scared of the dark? Was Uli Derickson scared of a plane full of terrorist?
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessi...Uli%20Derickson

A true hero:http://www.rrstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2005022

The Lead Flight Attendant on flight 5050 is gay and evacuated the aircraft after it CRASHED:http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19890920-0

that's right, ANOTHER safety professional who did HIS JOB AND SAVED LIFES.

Your comments are NOT only sexist and homophobic, they're IGNORANT.

 

[calibrator]

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[Paul]

Before this get WAY out of hand, let's move it back on topic. I believe that we were discussing TSA's relaxing some restrictions on seized items and the reaction to that from Flight Attendants.

 

[SKY HIGH]

I am everything you state.

Also, A "BITTER" EX-US EMPLOYEE who's only purpose on this board is to lash out at YOUR FORMER employer. Pathetic!

 

[BearHunter]

Why is AFA distorting the truth, wasting money and scaring people with such shrill nonsense?
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Because the majority are females scared of the dark and the other male members are “mostlyâ€￾ guys wishing they were born with breasts, they feel they have been cursed not having them. The PC term is Gay, the real term I can't print. But in my book they are freaks of nature, like mutants.
Now I’ll be attacked by one for being nasty and mean spirited. 🙄 Just don't bite and scratch me

And to think I was beginning to think highly of you after all you had to say on another post about your religious shield, seems to me your sheild is a bigot sheild and you call it a religous shield to make yourself feel better. Shame on you for your remarks.

 

[Dog Wonder]

And to think I was beginning to think highly of you after all you had to say on another post about your religious shield, seems to me your sheild is a bigot sheild and you call it a religous shield to make yourself feel better. Shame on you for your remarks.

Had you read Calibrator religious shield post carefully it contains the same thinly veiled homophobia, had you read his post, properly deleted by the Moderator, on this thread you would have seen how properly you read his attitude.

 

[N965VJ]

Ignore him before the thread gets locked down.