Overseas Checks

[777GUY]

Yawn......Here we go again...

"the B Check is being repackaged to provide more manpower flexibility at DFW. The repackage spreads the maintenance items across 3 A Checks, numbered A1, A2 and A3 and scheduled at the current 777 A Check locations."

The reasons for the change are clearly stated.
So stations like JFK, MIA and ORD are also going to be getting some extra work to help out with DFW manpower issues. What's the big deal?

 

[AMFAMAN]

The reasons for the change are clearly stated.
So stations like JFK, MIA and ORD are also going to be getting some extra work to help out with DFW manpower issues. What's the big deal?

How about a recall at DFW, we're only down 300 heads since the "vote for this, and the twu will save your job" concession package.

 

[ch53D]

Yawn......Here we go again...

"the B Check is being repackaged to provide more manpower flexibility at DFW. The repackage spreads the maintenance items across 3 A Checks, numbered A1, A2 and A3 and scheduled at the current 777 A Check locations."

The reasons for the change are clearly stated.
So stations like JFK, MIA and ORD are also going to be getting some extra work to help out with DFW manpower issues. What's the big deal?

DFW manpower issue for one. As stated before I'm against maint checks being done overseas. LHR manpower has just increased and DFW deceased, and I shouldn't have a problem with that?

 

[777 fixer]

DFW manpower issue for one. As stated before I'm against maint checks being done overseas. LHR manpower has just increased and DFW deceased, and I shouldn't have a problem with that?

Aren't there guys at DFW working every second of overtime they can to make up for the manpower issues there?

 

[777GUY]

DFW manpower issue for one. As stated before I'm against maint checks being done overseas. LHR manpower has just increased and DFW deceased, and I shouldn't have a problem with that?

I don't know where you get your information from, but you are totally wrong !!

LHR manpower is still 20% down on 4 years ago.

I have also heard that people have been recalled to DFW from ORD

 

[AMFAMAN]

Aren't there guys at DFW working every second of overtime they can to make up for the manpower issues there?

Yeah the shop stoolies, union officers, and bootlickers are sucking up the overtime and field trips, the rest of us want recalls.

 

[777 fixer]

Yeah the shop stoolies, union officers, and bootlickers are sucking up the overtime and field trips, the rest of us want recalls.

So what is the exact ratio between "stoolies, union officers, and bootlickers" to guys who want recalls?

 

[Bob Owens]

I don't know where you get your information from, but you are totally wrong !!

LHR manpower is still 20% down on 4 years ago.

And so is everyone else. If you count TWA LLC, stations like JFK are down closer to 40%.

Yeah the shop stoolies, union officers, and bootlickers are sucking up the overtime and field trips, the rest of us want recalls.

That may be true in DFW but not in NY, we would rather have the OT. Why fight for recalls? All that does is pump the TWUs dues base back up.

I think one reason why the company is reluctant to recall is because they know they wont have much luck getting guys back. We just had another high time mechanic quit last week.

Aren't there guys at DFW working every second of overtime they can to make up for the manpower issues there?

No, they are working it to make up for the paycut that you didnt take.

 

[AMFAMAN]

So what is the exact ratio between "stoolies, union officers, and bootlickers" to guys who want recalls?

Based on the OT list there is a core group of less than 50 out of 750+ that will accept any OT or field trips the company throws their way. Another group of around 50 that takes just OT, and than the rest who refuse to work it for a few reasons, the main one being recalls and lack of double time coming in second.

In comparison, before the concessions, you had about a 75% sign-up rate for OT. Now they don't bother for the reasons mentioned and have started their own business for extra cash instead, and for a way out of this place.

I have also heard that people have been recalled to DFW from ORD

6 AMT's recalled for a galley mod that requires 11 AMT's including the crew chief. So we're down another 5 starting next week.

 

[MCI transplant]

<_< ---- MCI did recall 18 AMT's. But that's after 51 retired last year, and I hear more are going this year!----- So where's the gain? 😉 It seems they're playing this game all over the system!-- :down: Do you really think Burrechet, or any other TWU rep, will have anything of value in his hand when he pulls it out of Romano's pocket next year? :unsure: Or am I being naive?

 

[ch53D]

Aren't there guys at DFW working every second of overtime they can to make up for the manpower issues there?

The issue isn’t DFW OT. The issue is taking B-CK cards and turning them into A-CK’s. Once the company turned the work into A-Ck’s it was ok to get the work done overseas in the company’s thinking.

There have been now 12 A-CK 1, 2 since the 12th done outside the US. The increase work on these cards is significant which drives more man hours on the A-CK, as you well know. The company has shifted man hours from the US to overseas and that’s quit clear. That’s the issue plan and simple.

Just a side note on DFW OT. The company is trying to plug a dike that has broken but is unable to plug it. The company’s maintenance program/manning/parts on demand have finally caught up them. The very small amount of people working OT at DFW can not keep up with the work load.

 

[777 fixer]

No, they are working it to make up for the paycut that you didnt take.

Well Bob there you go making a statement that’s not true. Unless you are expecting people to believe that everyone in the system took a pay cut but me. Didn’t think this one through very well did you Bob?

The issue isn’t DFW OT. The issue is taking B-CK cards and turning them into A-CK’s. Once the company turned the work into A-Ck’s it was ok to get the work done overseas in the company’s thinking.

There you go Bob, contrary to what you seem to think you are not immune to outsourcing either.

 

[Bob Owens]

Well Bob there you go making a statement that’s not true. Unless you are expecting people to believe that everyone in the system took a pay cut but me. Didn’t think this one through very well did you Bob?

The mechanics stateside took a bigger cut than you did. Thats why they have to work at least 2 four hour tours of OT to make up for the cuts they took. So what was untrue about the statement?

There you go Bob, contrary to what you seem to think you are not immune to outsourcing either.

Did I ever say we were? However outsourcing line maintenance is a bad business decision.


Back to taxes.
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes...lTaxRate40.aspx

Keep in mind that unlike in Brittain we dont have the comprehensive safety net that your labour party built for you. If we lose our jobs we lose everything, including medical coverage. Some states have UI but none of them pay like European systems.

 

[Oneflyer]

The mechanics stateside took a bigger cut than you did. Thats why they have to work at least 2 four hour tours of OT to make up for the cuts they took. So what was untrue about the statement?
Did I ever say we were? However outsourcing line maintenance is a bad business decision.
Back to taxes.
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes...lTaxRate40.aspx

Keep in mind that unlike in Brittain we dont have the comprehensive safety net that your labour party built for you. If we lose our jobs we lose everything, including medical coverage. Some states have UI but none of them pay like European systems.

Bob, once again your statement of so called facts is a bit off.

1. People in the UK pay higher than a 40% tax rate, so you still paying less tax.
2. If you lose your job you do not "lose everything". You have COBRA which allows you to continue your coverage, except you have to pick up the whole bill. You have Medicare for if you are disabled or are old. If you're desperate you can just go to the hospital, they aren't going to deny you emergency care regardless if you or can not pay.

 

[777 fixer]

The mechanics stateside took a bigger cut than you did. Thats why they have to work at least 2 four hour tours of OT to make up for the cuts they took. So what was untrue about the statement?

Remember what I said about you not thinking things through very well? This is a case in point because I'm an AMT here in the states just like you. You must be thinking of 777Guy.

Did I ever say we were? However outsourcing line maintenance is a bad business decision.

You seem to have been singing a different tune in reply 66 on this message thread.

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