PDT Scoped out Of Q400's
- Thread starter WSurf
- Start date
I do not have access to the mainline contract, but as a close follower of Piedmont I understand that the mainline contract addresses exclusively RJ's and that turboprops were excluded from any seating limitations. I believe Piedmont, or any other owned and/or code sharing partner, could operate a fleet of Q400s under the US Airways Express flag.
Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Unless it has changed in the last couple years, the scope was the number of seats. Dehavilland was willing to build a 69 seat version of the 400 to comply with the scope, this was back in 03/04. But with the transition agreement and all this could be old news.
BoeingBoy
Veteran
- Joined
- Nov 9, 2003
- Messages
- 16,512
- Reaction score
- 5,865
Like FM2436, I no longer have access to the changes made leading up to BK1 & 2. However, the last contract negotiated normally became effective in 1998 and everything since have been amendments to that contract. Under the scope provision of that contract the limit on the number of seats is 69 and there are limits on the number on "turbine engine without an external propellar" (non-turboprop) aircraft.
As I recall, like fr8tmastr, all the scope changes since that contract have addressed the number and seating capacity of "small jets", or non-turboprops. If that's correct, the turboprop limit remains 69 seats.
Jim
As I recall, like fr8tmastr, all the scope changes since that contract have addressed the number and seating capacity of "small jets", or non-turboprops. If that's correct, the turboprop limit remains 69 seats.
Jim
It was my understanding that the Q400 was still outside any scope relief that had been granted so far.
If I remember right, it's not the number of seats in it, it is the number of seats it is certified to have in it...
Granted, this is something that could be addressed, but in the current climate between the company and the mainline pilot union, it seems unlikely anytime soon.
IMO it is not that the company does not want the Q400's, rather it takes a backseat to the current acqusition of new mainline aircraft (rumored Boeing/Airbus order and any additional EMB-190's).
And in that light, you can bet that the Mainline Pilots will resist any expenditure of capital (to a subsidiary) that could be used towards a new Mainline aircraft instead.
Sorry.
