PHL/LAX

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

Perhaps a WN cockpit crewmember could answer these questions.

Obviously, because WN flies this route, the 737 can make it on a single tank of "petrol"

Is PHL/LAX THE longest route flown by WN ?

Can both the '300 + '700 make the trip ?

How much gas is in the tank(upon arrival) in LAX, on a normal run?

And finally,

How extreme(westbound headwinds) does it have to get, before a fuel stop is needed, and/or weight reduction ?

I've always wondered about the ranges on the 737's(except the '800)


Thank you very much !!(in advance)

NH/BB's

 

[mga707]

Is PHL/LAX THE longest route flown by WN ?

NH/BB's

PHL-OAK and BWI-OAK are longer nonstop routes, since the Bay Area is substantially farther west than the LA basin. About 122 degrees longitude vs. 118/119 degrees. Even Reno is actually farther west than LA. You can win trivia bets with that one!
BWI is only about 1 1/2 degrees west of PHL.

 

[does this plane go to paris]

what about the LAS-MHT or LAS/PVD flts. are those longer?

 

[B6Busdriver]

what about the LAS-MHT or LAS/PVD flts. are those longer?

Hope this helps:

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[NewHampshire Black Bears]

Thank to EVERYONE, for your Imput.

I'm still seeking WN's approximate 737 fuel on board, after a "normal" east west transcon, AND can both the '300 and '700 series make the long trip ?

Thanks again !

NH/BB's

 

[WNrforlife]

Perhaps a WN cockpit crewmember could answer these questions.

Obviously, because WN flies this route, the 737 can make it on a single tank of "petrol"

Is PHL/LAX THE longest route flown by WN ?

Can both the '300 + '700 make the trip ?

How much gas is in the tank(upon arrival) in LAX, on a normal run?

And finally,

How extreme(westbound headwinds) does it have to get, before a fuel stop is needed, and/or weight reduction ?

I've always wondered about the ranges on the 737's(except the '800)
Thank you very much !!(in advance)

NH/BB's

You sure do ask a lot of questions, NH/BB. 😛

 

[lpbrian]

You sure do ask a lot of questions, NH/BB. 😛

They are all valid questions. A 737 is not a do all aircraft. WN may think so, but a 737 is a putz in scheme of things..

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

You sure do ask a lot of questions, NH/BB. 😛

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Yes, "WN", I surely do.

Us legacy carrier employees, are a naturally curious sort.

I suppose I could have gone on the Boeing site, to get my answers, but I was curious if that 737-300, could even make the trip, on a lone tank of gas.

Also, during winter months(STRONG west east wind), I was wondering, how many WN passengers, who were on a 737-700, and going from say BWI/LAX, got a special treat, by seeing LAS, while the "FLUF" dropped in for petrol ??

The mere thought of flying 6+ hours in a WN 737(leather seats or NO leather seats), plus those Brutal CORNY Flight crews, would make me seriously consider AMTRAK !!

NH/BB's

 

[jimntx]

The mere thought of flying 6+ hours in a WN 737(leather seats or NO leather seats), plus those Brutal CORNY Flight crews, would make me seriously consider AMTRAK !!

NH/BB's

Now, now. That is uncalled for. Besides, whether you like it or not, evidently a LOT of people do. As I've said before, you can't argue with success.

BTW, don't forget, AA flies transcons with 737 also (or at least used to). Before I was furloughed in 2003, I know that we flew SEA to BOS or New York (can't remember which one) on a 737.

 

[tulswa]

Thank to EVERYONE, for your Imput.

I'm still seeking WN's approximate 737 fuel on board, after a "normal" east west transcon, AND can both the '300 and '700 series make the long trip ?

Thanks again !

NH/BB's

The fuel onboard upon arrival will essentially be the same as for a short-haul flight. FAR's require all flights to be planned with a 45 minute reserve, regardless of the length of the flight. If the weather requires an alternate airport to be planned, the fuel needed to reach that alternate will be required, in addition to the 45 minute reserve. It is SWA's policy to carry an extra amount of "contingency fuel", which is usually another 45 minutes of fuel (more if delays or weather rerouting is expected) for a flight over 4 hours. So in good weather with expected delays the airplane will arrive with enough fuel to fly another 1.5 hours. The 737 burns around 80 pound of fuel per minute so that would amount to 7200 pounds of fuel which equals approximately 1075 gallons.

 

[BuffaloJoe]

Now, now. That is uncalled for. Besides, whether you like it or not, evidently a LOT of people do. As I've said before, you can't argue with success.

BTW, don't forget, AA flies transcons with 737 also (or at least used to). Before I was furloughed in 2003, I know that we flew SEA to BOS or New York (can't remember which one) on a 737.

737 has no problem Eastbound. US used to fly SFO-PHL in a 737 eastbound but they couldn't do it westbound. I also noticed the past few days that the 737 is a bit slower than others types. I like the NG's alot.

 

[bwipilot]

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The mere thought of flying 6+ hours in a WN 737(leather seats or NO leather seats), plus those Brutal CORNY Flight crews, would make me seriously consider AMTRAK !!

NH/BB's

Yes, it would probably bother you to be offered a drink several times a flight. We all prefer getting a scowl from a FA after begging for another drink (after angering the FAs by ringing a call button making them get off their "couch"). Having the SWA FAs do it so often would probably make you very uncomfortable comparing the levels of service.

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

The fuel onboard upon arrival will essentially be the same as for a short-haul flight. FAR's require all flights to be planned with a 45 minute reserve, regardless of the length of the flight. If the weather requires an alternate airport to be planned, the fuel needed to reach that alternate will be required, in addition to the 45 minute reserve. It is SWA's policy to carry an extra amount of "contingency fuel", which is usually another 45 minutes of fuel (more if delays or weather rerouting is expected) for a flight over 4 hours. So in good weather with expected delays the airplane will arrive with enough fuel to fly another 1.5 hours. The 737 burns around 80 pound of fuel per minute so that would amount to 7200 pounds of fuel which equals approximately 1075 gallons.

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tulswa,
Thank you for a truly honest attempt at my questions.
I appreciate it ..SERIOUSLY.
What I'm still a bit unclear on, is if the 737-300 can make those 5+ hr. trips WESTBOUND (bwi/phl-lax) ?

Futher,
Under Extreme high wind conditions(east to west) can the 737-700 STILL make it, without need for a fuel stop ?

No matter what paint scheme is on the 737-"800", it seems that, that model, never has to worry about fuel on west bound transcons.

NH/BB's

 

[Rhino]

Only 700s are used for the transcon flights. 300s would have to get fuel E-W normally.

700s have somewhat better range than 320s. During unususally strong jet streams last winter, JB had multiple gas stops, not so for WN.

 

[Itestwell]

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tulswa,
Thank you for a truly honest attempt at my questions.
I appreciate it ..SERIOUSLY.
What I'm still a bit unclear on, is if the 737-300 can make those 5+ hr. trips WESTBOUND (bwi/phl-lax) ?

Futher,
Under Extreme high wind conditions(east to west) can the 737-700 STILL make it, without need for a fuel stop ?

No matter what paint scheme is on the 737-"800", it seems that, that model, never has to worry about fuel on west bound transcons.

NH/BB's

I know at US we used to have 737-300's and 737-300LR which had an extra fuel tank (?) I believe. The LR planes did alot of transcons (SFO, SEA, LAX, etc...). I know the -300LR flew from PIT/CLT- West coast, but I am not sure about PHL/BWI. Just cannot remember......