PHX-TUS going to mainline?

[700AW]

If the ramp cannot be outsourced why in certain cities HP is worked by another airline or vendor?

because we never did the ramp in those cities... at DFW we had CO, but when they joined with DAL we added our own rap due to the 10 or so flights a day, but say in OGG woul dit be feasable to hire a big staff for one flight????

 

[700UW]

I am asking for information, like SAT and TPA I know are outsourced, what other cities?

 

[kao]

because we never did the ramp in those cities... at DFW we had CO, but when they joined with DAL we added our own rap due to the 10 or so flights a day, but say in OGG woul dit be feasable to hire a big staff for one flight????

so how many flights a day make it profitable/money wise to have your own fleet service? Is it written in a contract somewhere...? Just curious...

 

[700AW]

so how many flights a day make it profitable/money wise to have your own fleet service? Is it written in a contract somewhere...? Just curious...

I am sure there are many factors in deciding this.. which of one I am not privy. there are quite a few stations that were handled by CO that may still be or that we never did, some have csr's and ramp, come neither, some one or the other. In SAT i belive csr's are us and ramp is DAL.

 

[700UW]

SAT is CO doing everything, was just through there.

 

[barbeetantrums]

If the ramp cannot be outsourced why in certain cities HP is worked by another airline or vendor?

The contract states that stations that are staffed by HP fleet service at the time of the signing of the contract may not be outsourced. Do you have a comprehension problem?

 

[700UW]

No but apparently you do.

SAT, TPA and other stations are/were not staffed by HP/twu fleet service employees, some of those stations are being taken over by US/IAM East ramp.

Now how can that be?

 

[FCYTravis]

SAT, TPA and other stations are/were not staffed by HP/twu fleet service employees, some of those stations are being taken over by US/IAM East ramp.

Now how can that be?

How difficult is it to figure out that if US West has contracted out ramp service to another airline at an airport where US East already has rampers in place, that it makes financial and operational sense to cancel the outsourcing contracts and simply utilize the existing US East employees to work the US West flights, and vice versa?

It's called a merger synergy.

PHL is another HP station that was outsourced to Continental before the merger.

 

[700AW]

SAT is CO doing everything, was just through there.

If you knew why did you ask, trying to make someone llok bad, besides SAT is mostly rjs after 9/11 it went down to 3 rjs and a 37-200 a day

 

[700UW]

I am trying to find out why the twu/HP ramp contract allows outsourcing when some on here claim it is not allowed.

I fully understand the East taking over the west flights and vice versa where when is staffed and not the other.

 

[700AW]

I am trying to find out why the twu/HP ramp contract allows outsourcing when some on here claim it is not allowed.

I fully understand the East taking over the west flights and vice versa where when is staffed and not the other.

read post #21, this pretty much sums it up..

 

[barbeetantrums]

read post #21, this pretty much sums it up..

He understands. He is just trying to muddy the topic, as usual. He can't be that brain dead. At least we hope.

 

[700AW]

He understands. He is just trying to muddy the topic, as usual. He can't be that brain dead. At least we hope.

I don't know... you have read some of his post 😛

But sat on sat is a crj-200 x 3 times a day phx-sat only, 4 times a day m-s, one las sat m-s. I doubt that DP $ co. are eager to put our persons ( east or west) isn SAT anytime soon, I guess UW is right about "some" of the stations are replacing contract HP stations with US people where they are already in place, much like us taking over the PHX US flights from ServisScare while the US ramp stay on furlough

 

[700UW]

What about new stations that are started?

I am not trying to muddy the issue, I am looking for information, there are stations started after your contract that are not staffed by twu/HP fleet service.

Just seeking clarification, that is all, and it seems you all don't want to provide the answers.

Got it myself, from the HP/twu CBA:

1. The parties agree that the Company may continue to: (a) contract out work customarily or historically contracted out;

B: return equipment parts or assemblies to the manufacturer or to a manufacturer-approved repair station for repair or replacement;

C: contract out work when the Company’s facilities or equipment are not sufficient, or qualified personnel are not available, or where employees available do not have the experience and ability to perform the work required;
(d) contract out work as part of the implementation of an alliance, affiliation or other marketing arrangement with another entity; and

(e) contract out work at any location where such work has not been performed by Fleet Service Employees on a regular basis, or at any location where the Company has not maintained permanent Fleet Service facilities.
The Company shall not, however, contract out work if such contracting out would result in a reduction in force/furlough for any employee covered by this Agreement.

Nothing in this Paragraph, however, shall prevent the Company from implementing a reduction in force/furlough for economic reasons unrelated to contracting out work or for a reduction in Company flights.

 

[700AW]

You did'nt believe us, that is what we said, if it is a current HP worked station, it stays, if it never was, such as a CO stationt hat did it, then it could stay CO, or who-ever thoey choose, but if it were ever staffed with HP then it would stay HP....

What is this in the TWU cba
"B: return equipment parts or assemblies to the manufacturer or to a manufacturer-approved repair station for repair or replacement; "


is that a typo in the contract????