poor foundation

[azjetdude]

Clearly I did not clarify what I was refering to. When I was stating that US employees were getting paid for training, I was refering to FAs only. I don't know about the other departments.

Sorry!

 

[PITbull]

AZ,

That's not pay, that's a donation. The MECs didn't word that correctly.

 

[Dea Certe]

It just doesn't seem right to me that trainees aren't paid something. People have to eat, have bills to pay and deserve a few bucks.

Back in my day, we were paid minium wage. But we didn't have to buy our uniforms or luggage.

Doesn't seem right to me. Isn't there some law that requires some sort of renumeration?

Dea

 

[Smartest Loser]

I think you meant to use the word "DISDAIN".

"DESTAIN" is when you have your teeth whitened.

924,

Thanks… I was gritting my teeth the whole time I typed it..!! 😉

I stand corrected.

SL

 

[LCC_#1]

The bottom line is that each and everyone of us has free will.

I have learned that there are those in any job that get off on making the lives of everyone around them miserable. It is a sickness that I frankly don't think has a medical name.

I have also learned that we all have brains and can decide for ourselves what we will or will not accept or tolerate. If the overall picture is positive, most normal people will work for the good to make a situation, or in this case company. If one feels the negatives outweigh the positives, the normal and I feel smart person will persue another career. To me this is plain and simple.

This is where I have a problem. We do not work in an industry that has seen much success. The buzzards have been circling most airlines for a good 5-8 years, depending on the carrier. It isn't as if there hasn't been enough time to figure out that this is a tough industry. How many concessions and chapter 11's must one see before they decide it is either time to leave or face the reality that this industry can NOT afford the over-the-top labor cost NOR the million dollar ceo's. WHY, then WHY does a person continue over and over to stay with such uncertainty?

Longevity is a wonderful 1960's concept that is no longer appreciated. I remember when one was praised for working for one company and retiring there. Wake up, folks, we 10-40 year faithful are in the working minority where most only stay with a company on average 4 years.

I am 43 years old and will not be able to draw full ss until I am 67 (hopefully). Folks, that is 24 more years...longer than the 19 here at US. This is enough time to start over, but the clock is ticking and guys like myself have to consider that like it or not, we aging white guys are NOT in demand. So I must evaluate if I should take the knocks of the airline industry or go do something else. Forget the last 19 years. I have 24 more and is this the industry I want to struggle WITH or wonder ABOUT?

The reason I say all this is that I still love my job and all the flexibility and still perks that come with it. If I am reassessing my career and life here at US Airways and the industry as a whole, I have a hard time believing the negative, over it, bitter souls aren't. This brings to mind the question. Why exactly do you keep staying? Longevity? You were here before such and such? Do you really think anyone gives a crap about that? if you have 15-25 years left until retirement, are you really THAT sick in the head as to make everyones lives miserable for said years? I know those like that are self absorbed and could care less about their coworkers, mustless the customers, but must we who enjoy our jobs endure such utter bullshiit for the next 10-whatever amount of years?

That is my beef. So many years to start another career that just might make one happy and they hang around to pull everyone else down. It is a sickness. It is a self righteous, self loathing, egotitical, passive aggressive, entitled sickness.

Not to worry, those poor souls will drop dead from their misery long before they retire. Maybe there IS a God afterall!! :mellow:

 

[PITbull]

The bottom line is that each and everyone of us has free will.

I have learned that there are those in any job that get off on making the lives of everyone around them miserable. It is a sickness that I frankly don't think has a medical name.

Frankly, its called having an opinion. Each and everyone of us has one.

O-P-I-N-I-O-N.

...welcome to humanity.

 

[Smartest Loser]

Frankly, its called having an opinion. Each and everyone of us has one.

O-P-I-N-I-O-N.

...welcome to humanity.

I agree with Pitbull…I have an opinion and share it freely.

Just because I speak out against what I believe is wrong doing within the company, I am to leave..?? If I would have followed that thinking, I would have been employed about 8 months. I have said many times, these clowns just might pull it off and they might not.

My opinion, is what sparks debate and that might start some original thinking. God know we need a lot of that.

Hate the game not the player..!! 😉 😉

SL

 

[LCC_#1]

I agree with Pitbull…I have an opinion and share it freely.

Just because I speak out against what I believe is wrong doing within the company, I am to leave..?? If I would have followed that thinking, I would have been employed about 8 months. I have said many times, these clowns just might pull it off and they might not.

My opinion, is what sparks debate and that might start some original thinking. God know we need a lot of that.

Hate the game not the player..!! 😉 😉

SL

Don't you and PITBULL DARE TURN MY WORDS AROUND!!!! I NEVER said a person could not have an opinion!! But the incesant negativity is SICK!! And THAT, idiot, is MY opinion, so go and distort someone elses opinion. I know longer WANT your debate!! WE have heard your :censored: for YEARS!! IT is tired and old!! WE get it!! MOVE ON!!

And Pitbull, SHAME ON YOU for your idiotic response. You are now gone from the ranks and for YOU, whom I have ALWAYS supported to turn this into some ugly battle? I know you are too [edited] proud, but you owe me an apology!!!
What nerve!!

 

[AIRWOMAN]

The foundation may be weakened but it's NOT broken. Strengthen the foundation and the house will stand strongly.

 

[Smartest Loser]

Don't you and PITBULL DARE TURN MY WORDS AROUND!!!! I NEVER said a person could not have an opinion!! But the incesant negativity is SICK!! And THAT, idiot, is MY opinion, so go and distort someone elses opinion. I know longer WANT your debate!! WE have heard your bullshiit for YEARS!! IT is tired and old!! WE get it!! MOVE ON!!

And Pitbull, SHAME ON YOU for your idiotic response. You are now gone from the ranks and for YOU, whom I have ALWAYS supported to turn this into some ugly battle? I know you are too [edited]proud, but you owe me an apology!!!
What nerve!!

LCC1,

You my friend are unprofessional.

SL