Never said I was perfect. But, missing your turn off on the freeway is one thing. Forgetting that you are toting a gun--particularly if you are an airline employee--is something else wildly different. Quite frankly, the fact that she had the gun disassembled tells me that she knew exactly what she was doing, and just decided that she was a lot smarter than the Italian police. Kind of like the MIA AA flight attendants who almost caused us to lose Known Crew Member there. If they were picked for the random screening, they would just get out of line and go to the other Known Crew Member portal and try to get through there. It didn't work, and as I said, we were notified that if it happened again, AA would be removed from known crewmember in MIA.
Report: US Airways F/A arrested in Rome for gun posession
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Never said I was perfect. But, missing your turn off on the freeway is one thing. Forgetting that you are toting a gun--particularly if you are an airline employee--is something else wildly different. Quite frankly, the fact that she had the gun disassembled tells me that she knew exactly what she was doing, and just decided that she was a lot smarter than the Italian police. Kind of like the MIA AA flight attendants who almost caused us to lose Known Crew Member there. If they were picked for the random screening, they would just get out of line and go to the other Known Crew Member portal and try to get through there. It didn't work, and as I said, we were notified that if it happened again, AA would be removed from known crewmember in MIA.
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Even though I have never owned a gun, I do know that, to many people in the US, guns are an everyday item and they often carry them along. But I just don't get the "I forgot" excuse. Yet does happen to passengers rather frequently. For an airline employee (whether in this case or in the PHL one) to do it is beyond my understanding. While we don't know the details of what happened in Rome, the gun being disassembled has wondering (I know next to nothing about guns or how common it is to take them apart.)
(Does anyone know what would up happening in the PHL instance?)
Phoenix
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Sorry, non sequitur..
"The man who caused the crash of PSA 1771, David Burke, was a disgruntled former employee of USAir..."
Thousands upon thousands of people are authorized to carry firearms onboard commercial aircraft (federal agents, marshals, FFDOs, LEOs, etc. etc. etc.)... The criteria you say prove nothing is exactly what is used to screen individuals for armed authorization. Even if you were to point out a single case where the screenings have failed, which you have not, it would still be inadequate to prove the whole approach should be scuttled.
Phoenix
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The common theme I am seeing is that some FAs, former employees, and passengers should be allowed to go through the metal detector if they think it would help them as a back up to their forgetfulness.
We could call it armed amnesty, a memory handicap don't ask don't tell program, just use the metal detector, we'll quietly take your pistol for safe keeping upon your return, and we won't tell anyone you are a ditz. 
robbedagain
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she oviously took it from clt or phl to rome with it from the way it sounds not sure if she forgot it in her bag but still it begs to ask how did she get by security in the usa to go to fco?
autofixer
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Maybe she bought it in Rome? If the picture I saw in the article is the gun, it looks like an old collector's piece. Did I miss that she brought it from home as fact?
Harry Callahan
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Folks there is a lot more info. about this in the US forum on Flyertalk.
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How she could have brought it from the U.S. is easy. Both CLT and PHL have Known Crewmember portals. If she participated in this program (and most of us do if we are crewmembers), she went through a portal into the secure part of the airport with her id and a check of her credentials (online) by a TSA agent. No bag screening. No metal detector involved.
The only exception would be if she were picked at random to go through regular screening--unlikely.
The only exception would be if she were picked at random to go through regular screening--unlikely.
I must assume you are in the airline business so I want you to think over what you just said. Sending pilots who already have a security clearance through a screening is like urinating in a wet suit .....it will give you a warm feeling all over but it doesn't accomplish anything. Do you think a pilot needs a weapon? Many of the airliners flying can be overstressed with one hand and outside of that if one pilot had bad intent and picked the right moment the other would be powerless to stop him/her. Maybe the answer is to keep the pilots, flight attendants and the passergers off of the airplanes and then nothing bad can happen.
robbedagain
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But theres no mention she did not get it in rome either either way a sad way to end a career and who knows what they italian prosecutors will do or the judge will say etc
robbedagain
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BUT theres nothing to say she did not buy it over there.... overall its a sad way to ruin her career.
as for the 2nd amendment i do not think it would apply over there in europe as someone else said they have stricter gun laws thus lower crime violence vs the usa.. just my 2 cents
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