Republic CLT-PLS Service

[Hope777]

With Republic scheduled to take over the CLT-PLS flight, does anyone know if it has been approved yet by the Goverment ?

 

[nycbusdriver]

With Republic scheduled to take over the CLT-PLS flight, does anyone know if it has been approved yet by the Goverment ?

Why would the government have to approve it? As a UK territory, the islands are "open skies." And Republic has an FAA operating certificate. What's to stop them as long as their aircraft are appropriate to the route?

 

[USFlyer]

I believe airlines still need approval/authorization to fly in or over another country's territory. In this case, has Republic ever served a UK territory?

 

[Hope777]

Why would the government have to approve it? As a UK territory, the islands are "open skies." And Republic has an FAA operating certificate. What's to stop them as long as their aircraft are appropriate to the route?

Unsure as to why ???
But from the USAirways Website

• Flight # 3323: Nonstop service on Republic Airlines dba US Airways Express between Charlotte, NC and Providenciales, Turks and Caicos Islands is subject to government approval.

 

[nycbusdriver]

I believe airlines still need approval/authorization to fly in or over another country's territory. In this case, has Republic ever served a UK territory?

I believe you're wrong in most cases. (Cuban overflights need approvals, at least for US carriers.)

Almost every country on the planet has agreed to First and Second Freedom rights, which allows for overflight and technical stops. The US and UK have had this since almost forever.

Additionally, the US and UK have at least Third and Fourth Freedom rights, which allows any carrier of either country to fly trips which originate/end in the home country to and from the other country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedoms_of_the_air

 

[USFlyer]

There still is a process to get approval. Airlines have to pay countries for use of their airspace, air traffic control, etc.

 

[Crzipilot]

Insurance issues come to mind also.

Wasn't it US that happen to get the bright idea to send 330 to CUN? Only to find out it didn't have authorization for that aircraft to goto mexico? Though AB 73 75 76 was ok...someone forgot to check before sending it.... Also depending on country, sometimes it's limited by actual tail numbers and not just type.... Brand X airline we could only send certain tail numbers to certain countries sometimes.

 

[nycbusdriver]

There still is a process to get approval. Airlines have to pay countries for use of their airspace, air traffic control, etc.

Don't think so. If that were the case, the US would be collecting most of the fees since it is by far the largest market in the world, and foreign airlines chomp at the bit to serve our cities. The agreement is know as OPEN Skies, not Skies for Sale.

 

[USFlyer]

US does collect fees for use of its air traffic control system. "Open Skies" does not equal "Free Skies".

 

[LD3]

Unable to insert link, but the IATA website says that airlines pay fees for ATC, (enroute navigation and terminal charges).

Found this on the FAA website: http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/apl/aatf/

 

[Keroseneuser]

Another mainline route outsourced....sigh.

 

[PHL]

The thread started by asking about whether or not PLS requires government "approval" (it doesn't) to now discussing fees. These are two very different topics.

 

[USFlyer]

I think the point was it does require government approval, per US Airways' own press release. So we were brainstorming why government approval may be required. Topics are related as a result.

 

[GuntherA320]

With Republic scheduled to take over the CLT-PLS flight, does anyone know if it has been approved yet by the Goverment ?

Another mainline route outsourced....sigh.

This route is being flown by Republic from September 5th thru October 4th (The high point of hurricane season). After the 4th of October it goes back to an Airbus 319 thru the end of the year. The company has been doing something similar with Punta Cana for quite some time now, downgrading it from an a320/a321 to an E190 for at least the last 4 hurricane seasons.

 

[Hope777]

This route is being flown by Republic from September 5th thru October 4th (The high point of hurricane season). After the 4th of October it goes back to an Airbus 319 thru the end of the year. The company has been doing something similar with Punta Cana for quite some time now, downgrading it from an a320/a321 to an E190 for at least the last 4 hurricane seasons.

Yes I am aware of that. BUT, it stayed Mainline on the 190 NOT contracted out for 175 service for a month.