Republican controlled house says.."DEFUND Obamacare, or we're SHUTTING the GOVT. DOWN "

[southwind]

Err.................This!

"Goodman explains the plan "would grant a refundable tax credit to every American. It would treat us all same, unlike ObamaCare. It would not discourage employers from hiring anyone. It would not push us all into part-time jobs."

And this!

"One analyst says most Republican plans, including the Price plan, aim to give every American the same tax benefit as those who get tax-free employer-provided health insurance -- but put the power and the money under the individual's control."
http://www.foxnews.c...e-alternatives/

Put the power and the money, under the individuals control.............what a novel idea !

But hell, who cares if your only working 30 hours a week, at least you have BaRack-O-Care !

 

[KCFlyer]

In a few days there will be some wonderful healthcare plans available that cover pre-existing medical conditions with wonderful, prompt service provided by highly trained interns located just hours away from your home for the low monthly premium of around $450 with a mere $5000 out of pocket expense limit and low, rock bottom $2500 deductibles. Once you pay up, you are free to schedule next years physical (act fast as all cost are subject to change and some services may not be available). Note: some medical procedures (x-rays and rectal exams) may be provided by your local, well staffed TSA department.

Don't forget to thank (major credit cards accepted, no ID required) your local DNC headquarters.

Well knot....that's a helluva bargain to a person who COULD NOT GET a policy, regardless of price or deductible, because they had a preexisting condition. AS a matter of fact - one plan that republicans seem to have is to have "Health Savings Accounts" (remember them?) where you had a plan that had a $2,500 deductible and a $5,000 out of pocket expense that would cost you about $450 per month...and that was cited as a SAVINGS back then. ARe you saying that Obamacare is bad because it's making a republican idea the alternative?

 

[delldude]

Well knot....that's a helluva bargain to a person who COULD NOT GET a policy, regardless of price or deductible, because they had a preexisting condition. AS a matter of fact - one plan that republicans seem to have is to have "Health Savings Accounts" (remember them?) where you had a plan that had a $2,500 deductible and a $5,000 out of pocket expense that would cost you about $450 per month...and that was cited as a SAVINGS back then. ARe you saying that Obamacare is bad because it's making a republican idea the alternative?

You say 'remember them'.....HSA have been and still are in use.
HSA are going to be the core plan on the fed exchange.

 

[Ms Tree]

Err.................This!

"Goodman explains the plan "would grant a refundable tax credit to every American. It would treat us all same, unlike ObamaCare. It would not discourage employers from hiring anyone. It would not push us all into part-time jobs."

And this!

"One analyst says most Republican plans, including the Price plan, aim to give every American the same tax benefit as those who get tax-free employer-provided health insurance -- but put the power and the money under the individual's control."
http://www.foxnews.c...e-alternatives/

Put the power and the money, under the individuals control.............what a novel idea !

But hell, who cares if your only working 30 hours a week, at least you have BaRack-O-Care !

What was the out come of the vote on these bills in the House?

 

[Dog Wonder]

The House Republicans are so short on substance they have voted over 40 times to do away with Affordable Health Care, Can't they find anything else to hang their hats on?

 

[Knotbuyinit]

Well knot....that's a helluva bargain to a person who COULD NOT GET a policy, regardless of price or deductible, because they had a preexisting condition. AS a matter of fact - one plan that republicans seem to have is to have "Health Savings Accounts" (remember them?) where you had a plan that had a $2,500 deductible and a $5,000 out of pocket expense that would cost you about $450 per month...and that was cited as a SAVINGS back then. ARe you saying that Obamacare is bad because it's making a republican idea the alternative?

Obviously you know nothing about the HSA program, but am I surprised? Nope. It wouldn't be too much to ask for a cite for the ridiculously stupid information you posted above, would it?

You must have not made much of yourself over the years. I work for a company that provides family healthcare coverage and covers per-existing conditions . . when I was hired the insurance company never even asked. Wait, there's more. Long before the sham of Obama . . err, Godcare, my healthcare plan covered my dependents through the age of 26. Cost? about $365 a month!

Sucks that you never even thought to save money for the medical emergencies that WILL happen. In your case you knew decades ago. Now you want me to help foot the bill for your negligence?

 

[Knotbuyinit]

Really? Republicans have ideas for health care reform? What bills did they put forth for a vote when they had full control over Congress and the WH for 4 years? The only contributions the GOP has been willing to make over the last 6 years is "no".

Keep saying it's the Dems fault. Perhaps if you say it enough times someone will believe you. The Republicans have control over the House and have had control for nearly 4 years now. How many bills have they passed with their version of health care reform? I know they have voted 41 times against ACA but how many times have they voted for their own health care reform? Is that the Dem minority's fault as well?

The GOP is doing everything in it's power to make the ACA fail and nothing to come up with an alternative or a fix. NOTHING. Not a single bill has been passed by the GOP in the House with their own idea. That is what the GOP will be remembered for. The GOP's only hope is that no one remembers this BS come 2014 other wise you might be in the minority yet again.

The Democrats own this mess!

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

"The reason Republicans aren't interested in those negotiations is they don't want to give anything up to get the things they want. That's why they like negotiating over the debt ceiling: Since they also don't want the U.S. to lose its creditworthiness and fall back into financial crisis, raising the debt ceiling is not actually giving anything up. It's releasing a hostage they never wanted to shoot." - Ezra Klein, WaPo 9/27/2013"

 

[Ms Tree]

Obviously you know nothing about the HSA program, but am I surprised? Nope. It wouldn't be too much to ask for a cite for the ridiculously stupid information you posted above, would it?

You must have not made much of yourself over the years. I work for a company that provides family healthcare coverage and covers per-existing conditions . . when I was hired the insurance company never even asked. Wait, there's more. Long before the sham of Obama . . err, Godcare, my healthcare plan covered my dependents through the age of 26. Cost? about $365 a month!

Sucks that you never even thought to save money for the medical emergencies that WILL happen. In your case you knew decades ago. Now you want me to help foot the bill for your negligence?

That's because there is something called the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA). This act limits the ability of a company insurance plan to deny coverage due to pre-existing conditions. This act does not apply to self employed or to those seeking private insurance.

I'm surprised you did not know this.

My brother in law had to have two heart valves replaced. There were complications which resulted in a second surgery to replace them a second time a few months later. My sister said she stopped adding up the bills when she passed $1,000,000.

My wifes sister in laws sister had triplets. One had sever medical problems and did not end up surviving. The cost for hospital care for all three in NICU also blew well past $1,000,000.

Please explain how someone is supposed to save for such circumstances.

My Hernia was billed at close to $20k. I got food poisoning a few years back and had to go to ER and then was admitted for 3 days. That bill was over $40k.

HSA accounts have their place but they are pretty limited and pretty useless. It's pre-tax income so the savings is not all that substantial. My wife needs some dental work next year so I am going to put $1,500 in a HSA and pay for it that way. I might be able to got to Olive Garden with my wife with the money we save.... wooooo hooooo.

 

[southwind]

I say go full speed ahead, ramming BaRack-O-Care down peoples and especially unions throats. Then we'll see how the 2014 and 16 elections shake out ! More that likely GOP controlled house, senate and WH , with people crying, "Please get us out of this mess called BaRack-O-Care !"

 

[Dog Wonder]

You predicted Herman Cain would win the 2012 presidential election.

 

[southwind]

What I can predict is that your next reply will be no longer than one sentence !

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

What I can predict is that your next reply will be no longer than one sentence !

Thank you for your one sentence reply, complaining about Dog writing one sentence replies.

How is President Cain doing today?

 

[southwind]

Thank you for your one sentence reply, complaining about Dog writing one sentence replies.

How is President Cain doing today?

Thought by now, you understood, like everyone else, Dog can't comprehend more than one sentence at a time.............get with the F#K!@ program man !

Nothing worse, in a Libtards mind, than a "BLACK" GOP member..................I understand, but don't agree, with your racism !
You know, a black man leaving the Demorat plantation and all !

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

Thought by now, you understood, like everyone else, Dog can't comprehend more than one sentence at a time.............get with the F#K!@ program man !

Nothing worse, in a Libtards mind, than a "BLACK" GOP member..................I understand, but don't agree, with your racism !
You know, a black man leaving the Demorat plantation and all !

Assuming you work for NON Union Del-DUH, I can't wait until you're "On your OWN", and NO ACA act to save your worthless ASSS !


I THANK GOD...every day I work for the HEAVILY UNIONIZED Railroads.
I'm probably guessing the East/West coast Dock workers feel likewise.

I guess the two of us(Railroads and Longshoremen) are like Salomon Bros., or Citicorp and Chase. They're TOO BIG TO FAIL, while we're TOO BIG TO "FUUK WITH" !!

IF the REPLUGS are going to Shut Down the Govt, I HOPE and PRAY they keep it SHUT DOWN for a good 6 MONTHS, so the stock market can TANK, and businesses grind to a halt !
The american People will GET EVEN in 14' and 16'. !

This shutdown Abortion would really be Hilarious, if it were NOT so F'n SAD.

The GOP.
The GIFT that Keeps on GIVING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!