Southeast snow

[Kev3188]

Here in my corner of Los Angeles, it's currently 77, like it's been for several weeks. 

I think I'm gonna cry...

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Exactly.   It's only January 29.   For you guys who work outside in this weather, you've really taken it on the chin.   
 
Here in my corner of Los Angeles, it's currently 77, like it's been for several weeks. 
 
On Sunday, the local news station showed a story from New Orleans, where icy bridges last Friday resulted in pile-ups on the bridge and the NOLA local police didn't even show up until Saturday noon.   Took the local PD almost 24 hours to arrive.   One direction of the bridge was closed the entire time, as nothing was done, no cars were towed until mid-day on Saturday.    How many icy days like that does New Orleans get?

In the last many years...Zero.

 

[xUT]

Def not defending ATL but maybe it was the untreated roads with ice under the snow
combined with unskilled drivers?
Why after all these years they can't invest in salt/ice melt trucks is beyond me.  
The city officials are incompetent. 

Yes,you are correct IMHO.
If ground temperatures are greater than the falling snow then we have a crust of ice under the snow.
The ice layer under the snow is an unmanageable combination. (ie... there isn't chit you can do)
Then dropping salt on this condition works pretty good at daytime temperatures but you get a night freeze then your back to black ice in the morning.
Best luck to all the folks in Atlanta and the area!
Hope you can stay home and be safe for a few days!
B) xUT

 

[xUT]

I think I'm gonna cry...

Yea good weather but we are in a severe drought condition.
Woke up this morning in the bay area and it was 66 degrees.
Yea, I miss snow... 😛

 

[jimntx]

To be fair, this sort of event usually happens once a decade or less in the Deep South.  Would you consider it a good expenditure of your tax dollars for the states of the Deep South to keep trucks and supplies of road salt on hand that may or may not be used for years?
 
Though I agree with FWAAA.  This is happening more and more often, and getting more severe as well.  At the same time there are weird events such as no snow at the resorts at Lake Tahoe.  We had a ski trip planned for 2nd week of February.  All North Lake Tahoe resorts are reporting "early season" conditions.  That's called skiing on rocks.  I've tried it.  Didn't like it.  We cancelled Tahoe and are going to Summit County, Colorado instead.
 
That drought condition in SFO and the lack of snow at Tahoe is the result of a high pressure system which has been parked over the Northwest corner of Nevada for some time now.  This is normally the rainy season for Northern California and Oregon with snow in the surrounding mountains.  The high pressure system is blocking the storms that would normally be crossing the upper California and Oregon coast at this time of the year providing the liquid wherewithal for the rest of the year.  It's going to be a difficult year water-wise in N. California and Oregon and large areas of the West that depend upon the Tahoe snow melt for their summer water supplies.

 

[700UW]

Flight Attendants are sleeping on planes in ATL.

 

[Kev3188]

Yea good weather but we are in a severe drought condition.
Woke up this morning in the bay area and it was 66 degrees.
Yea, I miss snow... 😛

Lucky you! I'm willing to give you all of mine.

 

[700UW]

Whats going on in ATL:
From a FA there.
 

  I have been on and off of hold with Crew Sced, Crew Tracking & Crew Accommodations since 12:30 today! It is now 9:30PM and I can still hear the on hold music playing as we still NEED HELP! There has GOT TO BE a better way to handle things in bad weather!!...Our end result up to this point is, we had a 2:45 pick-up for our 4:45 dep to ATL which by the grace of a monitor was able to get our pick up moved to 5:30PM....and now here we sit after many many changes and are now currently scheduled to fly to ATL landing at 2AM!!! After much waiting we got a hotel room in downtown ATL and when we called the transportation company to see if they would be able to take us there, they said ABSOLUTELY NOT! We will NOT be taking any crews downtown, it's too dangerous to drive!!? REALLY? Now what do we do? Sleep in an airplane? Sleep in the lounge?...Do they then expect us to work tomorrow with no sleep? no shower? and how will they know our situation when no one answers the phone?...Man I wish I had a blankie now!!, I'm going to need it!
 

 

[WorldTraveler]

spare us

AA didn't magically restart their operation the minute the ice stopped falling either. It was chaos. Do you have logs of where AA and B6 crew members slept during their weather events?

DL has operated a far higher percentage of flights during the ATL weather event than AA did at DFW or B6 did at JFK. And DL's operation at ATL is regularly far larger than either of those. Apparently, 700, there are enough DL employees who not only managed to get where they needed to be but they also

 

[Kev3188]

 In the context of this thread, does it matter what AA or B6 (or UA, or WN, NK, etc.) did/didn't do?

Remember, this is what the OP asked:

How did Delta fare in ATL?

 

[LD3]

 

spare us

AA didn't magically restart their operation the minute the ice stopped falling either. It was chaos. Do you have logs of where AA and B6 crew members slept during their weather events?

DL has operated a far higher percentage of flights during the ATL weather event than AA did at DFW or B6 did at JFK. And DL's operation at ATL is regularly far larger than either of those. Apparently, 700, there are enough DL employees who not only managed to get where they needed to be but they also

Why are you getting your panties in a wad? 700 never mentioned DL in his post....

 

[WorldTraveler]

In the context of this thread, does it matter what AA or B6 (or UA, or WN, NK, etc.) did/didn't do?

Remember, this is what the OP asked:

yes it does.

I made it clear that DL has in fact operated a higher percentage of flights from its and the world's largest hub during its weather event that was just as crippling to the city and region as N. Texas' ice event was to DFW.

Further, when 700 wants to start posting the blow by blow of every other airline's operational issues - including crew comments as freely as he is to cut and paste FB comments to this site, then I'll quit asking for him to hold union airlines to the same standard.

I am sick and f89g tired of having to read his endless and mindless union drivel and having it defended by people like you that are so far out of step with what Delta Air Lines is about but determined in your mind that you represent anyone other than your own self.


if you'll like to answer the questions about how well other carriers did then there is some basis for comparison with how well DL did...which actually was quite well compared to its peers.

But we know full well that you could never acknowledge that DL could actually do something good or right.

the sooner you grasp the concept that you are the odd man out who is out of touch with the majority of your peers and quit looking to snake oil salesmen who can't deliver for their own clients, then you'll understand why DL employees don't want anything to do with unions.

You have a mind and a credible position to argue points but you defend and allow people like 700 to dominate the conversation and lose your own opportunity to speak.

If it matters to you, stand up and speak and tell people like 700 to shut up and let DL people speak.

As long as you allow him to run the conversation, you can be absolutely assured that DL employees will stay as far as possible from the union movement.

 

[Kev3188]

 

Further, when 700 wants to start posting the blow by blow of every other airline's operational issues - including crew comments as freely as he is to cut and paste FB comments to this site, then I'll quit asking for him to hold union airlines to the same standard.

How 'bout you stick to the OP's question, and stop worrying about what everyone else's doing?

Why are you getting your panties in a wad? 700 never mentioned DL in his post....

Why miss an opportunity to launch a diatribe?
 

I am sick and f89g tired of having to read his endless and mindless union drivel and having it defended by people like you that are so far out of step with what Delta Air Lines is about but determined in your mind that you represent anyone other than your own self.

There is an ignore function. If what he-or anyone- posts bothers you so much, use it. It's quite useful, really.


Now, back to the *actual* topic...

 

[WorldTraveler]

I answered the question of how well DL did. If you don't want to discuss anything further, then get the thread locked.

DL operated about half of its ATL flights during the ice event.

whether you want to see the comparison or not, that was superior to other large winter weather events that confronted AA at DFW and B6 at JFK.

I don't put anyone on ignore because I am not giving anyone a platform to speak without being challenged.

despite the difficulties in ATL yesterday, DL's systemwide OT based on flightstats was about 50% due to 75% - 80% OT at MSP and DTW.

appears that DL is planning for about 75% of its ATL operation today.

wanna get the thread locked now?

 

[Kev3188]

 

I don't put anyone on ignore because I am not giving anyone a platform to speak without being challenged.

Great. Just don't complain about being tired of reading someone's posts.

wanna get the thread locked now?

Nope, but I would like it to respect the OP's question, and keep this one on topic. Can you help us out with that?