State proposes work requirement for food stamps

[Dog Wonder]

proof shows just how stupid and petty libtards can be.

Let millions go hungry because a couple food stamp recipients hit the lottery, nothing stupid or petty about that.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Tell you what SparrowHawk, when people sitting on the couch collecting welfare produce anything of any value like General Mills, ConAgra, ADM, and Cargill let me know. 

 
It's Crony Capitalism when the Government picks the winners based upon their ability to campaign contributions that causes an inordinate number of "Couch Sitters".
 
One of the reasons Microsoft almost lost their ainti-trust suit years back was directly lnked to the fact they hod no lobbying presence in Washington, DC. An error Mr. Gates soon rectified worldwide. Lo and behold once he did that the suits stopped.
 
From a strictly moral perspective, ANYTIME a government takes from you to redistribute to others for ANY reason, well intentioned or nefarious it is wrong. It's outrageously wrong when that Government oversteps its authority. Show me where Corporate or Individual Welfare is directly permitted in the COTUS? Except for elements of the Commerce Clause and the statement "Promote the general welfar". It isn't there.
 
Ever stop and ponder how we might look as a nation with sound currency,true free markets without the crony capitalist subsidies, a greatly reduced debt? That just maybe we would have a thriving economy that made Food Stamps obsolete?

 

[delldude]

Let millions go hungry because a couple food stamp recipients hit the lottery, nothing stupid or petty about that.

 
Sadly its a lot worse than what you point out. States are giving out stamps to many people who meet the monthly wage test but have assets like multiple cars, houses and a wad in the bank.....that should go to seriously needy families.
Just think, they can get the stamps for free and have no trouble filling those cars with gas or paying auto insurance and home costs.
Only a liberal would let it go unchecked.
 

 
It's Crony Capitalism when the Government picks the winners based upon their ability to campaign contributions that causes an inordinate number of "Couch Sitters".
 
One of the reasons Microsoft almost lost their ainti-trust suit years back was directly lnked to the fact they hod no lobbying presence in Washington, DC. An error Mr. Gates soon rectified worldwide. Lo and behold once he did that the suits stopped.
 
From a strictly moral perspective, ANYTIME a government takes from you to redistribute to others for ANY reason, well intentioned or nefarious it is wrong. It's outrageously wrong when that Government oversteps its authority. Show me where Corporate or Individual Welfare is directly permitted in the COTUS? Except for elements of the Commerce Clause and the statement "Promote the general welfar". It isn't there.
 
Ever stop and ponder how we might look as a nation with sound currency,true free markets without the crony capitalist subsidies, a greatly reduced debt? That just maybe we would have a thriving economy that made Food Stamps obsolete?

 
You know Hawk, I'm beginning to think we're on the wrong end of this crony capitalism.....just like the stamps, maybe we should get in on it while the gettin's good.

 

[Dog Wonder]

States are giving out stamps to many people who meet the monthly wage test but have assets.

Can't eat assets.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I agree with everything you said except these two sentences. 
 

It's Crony Capitalism when the Government picks the winners based upon their ability to campaign contributions that causes an inordinate number of "Couch Sitters".

There is no reason in this country not to have a job. Crack open a newspaper, they have pages and pages of them. Don't see anything you like, get on your home PC or a PC at the library and go to a job board. THOUSANDS of jobs on there. The only reason you would not have a job in this country is if you choose not to have one.
 

That just maybe we would have a thriving economy that made Food Stamps obsolete?

Food Stamps will never be obsolete because as long as someone is standing there with their hand out the Democrats will be all too happy to put someone else's money into it. That is how they get their votes.
 

 

[delldude]

Can't eat assets.

 
So it's ok to tap into our tax dollars and leave theirs untouched earning interest?
 
Never heard of having some 6 months 'assets' saved for tough times?

 

[Dog Wonder]

Never heard of having some 6 months 'assets' saved for tough times?

Heard plenty about 6 months cash, heard a lot about people doing it.

 

[SparrowHawk]

 
I agree with everything you said except these two sentences. 
 
There is no reason in this country not to have a job. Crack open a newspaper, they have pages and pages of them. Don't see anything you like, get on your home PC or a PC at the library and go to a job board. THOUSANDS of jobs on there. The only reason you would not have a job in this country is if you choose not to have one.
 

Food Stamps will never be obsolete because as long as someone is standing there with their hand out the Democrats will be all too happy to put someone else's money into it. That is how they get their votes.
 

 

 
No reason NOT to have a job? REALLY? Clearly you must live is La La Land. I can name you the biggest reason why people don't work and the answer is GOVERNMENT.
 
OK, say your name in Cathy and you're a single Mom with two kids under 18. Given that you have kids the very best you can hope to make is a $20,000 per year without any appreciable job skills.
 
Earning $20,000 will lower my EITC benefit by at least $3,000. Earning 220K will lower my food stamp allotment. How much depends upon the state.  Then you have TANF which goes to ZERO if you make 20K, and let's not forget title 8 housing. Make to much and you pay more. Throw in ObamaCare and if you make to much you go from nearly a 100% subsidy to a ZERO subsidy in a heartbeat. Bottom line is at the bottom of the economic ladder it doesn't make business sense to go to work.
 
I've put the pencil to paper and for certain circumstances a single mom is a financial fool to go work. You take the government programs and find work that pays you cash and you're doing OK.
 
Personally, I think the government wants a certain percentage in the above type situations as they will be kept quiet and vote for wno's passing out the loot. Works pretty well for seniors not rocking the boat.
 
I still can't grasp the basic concept that confiscating wages to into a large pool to be hanbed out to people like the above and corporations is morally EXACTLY the same. Why is it bad in your mind if it's an individual and OK if you're Cargill or Exxon?

 

[delldude]

Heard plenty about 6 months cash, heard a lot about people doing it.

 
Why then they gipping the system?
 
6 months cash = assets

 

[Dog Wonder]

Or maybe they are making less than ten bucks an hour and have kids to feed.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Personally, I think the government wants a certain percentage in the above type situations as they will be kept quiet and vote for wno's passing out the loot. Works pretty well for seniors not rocking the boat.

Well I cannot argue with that. You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Government does not want to HELP anybody, they want dependents. Dependents are what push Democrat votes.
 
I think you are ignoring the fact alot of people WANT to become dependents. They have no issues helping themselves to your paycheck.
 
That is why I say Democrats are using tax dollars to BUY votes.
 
Maybe we are closer in viewpoint then I originally thought. 

 

[Dog Wonder]

Keep paying for those Democratic votes, that and your hate for the less fortunate should make you feel good.

 

[delldude]

Or maybe they are making less than ten bucks an hour and have kids to feed.

 
So spending your savings is off limits?
 
You know nothing of SNAP, Dog.
 
So now they make less than tens bucks an hour, have kids to feed but previously were printing exec's making $100,000 and the toys that go with it.....now they get,  $2500 a month in UC and qualify for stamps.....lots of liquifiable assets. but your cool with raising your taxes to help those rich bastards you despise so deeply.

 

[Dog Wonder]

So now they make less than tens bucks an hour, have kids to feed but previously were printing exec's making $100,000 and the toys that go with it.

How many of those making less than $10 an hour were previously making over 100 grand?

 

[eolesen]

How many of those making less than $10 an hour were previously making over 100 grand?

Look around, and you'll find a few, especially when you consider overtime, and total compensation (benefits and fringe), and not just the W2.

Someone I used to work with just got their bill for COBRA. Over $2100 to maintain coverage, so insurance alone is worth $25K.

With $75K in W2 income, it's really not hard at all to be that $100K person now making $10.