StraaightTaalk
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And you still want specific examples of Jetblue employees wishing ill on the employees of the majors?Ch. 12 said:Good luck. Hope your carrier doesn't go AwAAy.
I rest my case.
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And you still want specific examples of Jetblue employees wishing ill on the employees of the majors?Ch. 12 said:Good luck. Hope your carrier doesn't go AwAAy.
My guess is that the "news" is that AWA added transcons JFK-LAX/SFO... As low as $99 each way... AWA's fares naturally touch-ed off an AA/UA/DL response at LAX as well as LGB/SNA scurmish with JB. You may remember AA in particular offering very low fares to LGB but keeping the fares very high to LAX. Also, now that $198 roundtrips available to LAX on 4 airlines, so some folks choose not to go to LGB. Therefore, there is yield and traffic pressure on JB's transcons.ITRADE said:Was there some news that led to this???
Bad financial month?
Major holder dumping position?
First of all...I don't represent JetBlue. I can see both AMR and JBLU from the same vantage point so I am not held to emotional biases.StraaightTaalk said:And you still want specific examples of Jetblue employees wishing ill on the employees of the majors?Ch. 12 said:Good luck. Hope your carrier doesn't go AwAAy.
I rest my case.
"Constantly"? Isn't that a bit of an exaggeration?Ch. 12 said:constantly seek concessions.
No, not just Merrill (which now lists JBLU as a buy). Raymond James has raised JBLU to market outperform.Fubijaakr said:Funny that Merrill (and only Merrill) upgraded JBLU. Of course, they did the JBLU IPO and are in the Needle's hip pocket.
Can you say "self-interest" boys and girls? I knew you could.
BTW, even with today's 'ups' JBLU is still DOWN 11%.
I would agree that it is not a catastrophe... But given the amount of ASM's JBLU has invested in the transcon market and the yield/traffic deterioration that JBLU will experience based on AWA's new service is the only material development on the transcon scene. The wild-fires, while horrible, were no worse than a good hurricane or blizzard in airline terms (i.e. flight cancelations, sales impact, etc).Ch. 12 said:I tend to agree that the AWA announcement did not help JBLU but it is not anywhere near the catastrophe that some have made it out to be. There's still plenty of room for JBLU and for the forward thinking that they bring. Perhaps if the AA people spent as much effort concentrating on their own issues, AMR would be more efficient and wouldn't need to constantly seek concessions.
So what should we get paid. Please don't say industry standard. Be specific.StraaightTaalk said:By accepting work for less than union wages, you essentially drive down the market rate...bottom line...
While you may not be SCABS in the strictest sense of the word, you are no better than SCABS.
What a hilarious post. Your use of the term "market rate" is particularly amusing.StraaightTaalk said:By accepting work for less than union wages, you essentially drive down the market rate...bottom line...
While you may not be SCABS in the strictest sense of the word, you are no better than SCABS.
Market rate is set by the lowest paying competing carrier, according to the father of B-scale, Robert Crandall. In the 1980's, it was Continental and People Express who were setting the new low standard...now it is JetBlue...FWAAA said:I get it - the market rate can only increase, right? No such thing as a decline in the market rate for labor.
Is labor the only input which can never decrease in price? What about fuel? Is it allowed to go down in price? If the market in Jet-A is allowed to fluctuate, why not labor? What sets labor apart so that its market is one-way (only up, according to you)?? B)
Does anyone want to take a crack at the very obvious error in this statement?StraaightTaalk said:Market rate is set by the lowest paying competing carrier, according to the father of B-scale, Robert Crandall. In the 1980's, it was Continental and People Express who were setting the new low standard...now it is JetBlue...