Storm clouds on the horizon...

[NCFL]

Its time that Parker asks for pay cuts,5% from 10 to 20 thousand, 7 % from 20 to 40 thousand
10% from 40 to 65 thousand and 15% from 65 to 100 thousand, 100 thousand and up
20 to 25%, a couple of give backs from the unions and U should make it through the
Crisis.

Ya' know, I got my Social Security income statement thing in the mail the other day. It's sad to see that while I was at US, my income went down year after after year after year.

My job was paid on a "management" salary grade. (Translation: relatively low pay, no overtime, work your butt off, somebody higher up takes credit and gets a bonus). I was NOT one of those high-paid folks with space-positive First Class. Pay cuts, PDOs, benefit changes, longer workdays, caps on sick time accrual, etc. were all mandated to us. We accepted them or we quit. That part of my job sucked moose.

I don't have a dog in this hunt anymore. (My wages have gone to zero...I don't have any job). But I can't say with certainty that I'd be willing to stick around through another round of mandatory pay cuts. I don't think what you're proposing is the answer. I believe it would cause absolute mutiny in the East after what we've all been through on the pay cut front, and I honestly believe people when they say "shut the place down first."

 

[vsi0]

SHUT 'ER DOWN! :angry:

 

[Pacemaker]

History shows different. The company has the highest unit costs in the industry and they are endemic, built into the brick-and-mortar of the plant, so to speak. Management will conduct "Crossroads" road shows crying that the only place left to cut, regrettably, is employee costs. They will claim the airline is on the brink of Ch. 11 and "you'll get a worse deal from the judge than the one on the table." Our old friends the give-away-gang will come out of the woodwork with their "take the deal any deal" mantra and "let my daddy vote" signs. Employees, led by the pilots, will take a look around at the alternatives and conclude their present job, minus x-percent, is the logical choice.

Afterwards in conversation, everyone will claim they voted "no".

And US Airways will still have the highest costs in the industry.

 

[jimntx]

Pacemaker, do I denote a touch of sarcasm and cynicism in your post?

 

[PA18]

Pacemaker, do I denote a touch of sarcasm and cynicism in your post?

Not sarcasm and cynicism.

Fact and history.

Unfortunately.

 

[jimcfs]

I recall when Operation Barbell/Dumbell or whatever it was called was announced many in the East thought "We tried a similar route structure arrangement with PSA and it failed. Why are we trying it again?" Then pile the rest of the problems on top of an inherently flawed route map and viola!

Reading (and thinking late at night) about your post has me wondering... if PSA and/or PI had been in charge of this three-way that went down in '87, how much different would the result be today? I guess we'll never know the answer to that one.

 

[NCFL]

Reading (and thinking late at night) about your post has me wondering... if PSA and/or PI had been in charge of this three-way that went down in '87, how much different would the result be today? I guess we'll never know the answer to that one.

You're 100% correct. But people frequently postulate or pontificate that "If Piedmont had been in charge, things would be different and this whole thing would have been a smashing success." [hyperbole intended]

 

[goodfellow]

History shows different. The company has the highest unit costs in the industry and they are endemic, built into the brick-and-mortar of the plant, so to speak. Management will conduct "Crossroads" road shows crying that the only place left to cut, regrettably, is employee costs. They will claim the airline is on the brink of Ch. 11 and "you'll get a worse deal from the judge than the one on the table." Our old friends the give-away-gang will come out of the woodwork with their "take the deal any deal" mantra and "let my daddy vote" signs. Employees, led by the pilots, will take a look around at the alternatives and conclude their present job, minus x-percent, is the logical choice.

Afterwards in conversation, everyone will claim they voted "no".

And US Airways will still have the highest costs in the industry.

You are absolutely correct if the old regime was in there!!You Got new Guy's with Gut's and nut's, willing to take the company on for what it is worth!!! GO ND08!!!!!

 

[luvthe9]

12/31/09 it's going to get very ugly all flight crews are being advised to start saving as much as you can. There will be no give backs of any kind. :angry: