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Ms Tree said:
  

Article IV sec 1.

They can't punt it to the state level. Marriage is portable. Someone who is married in CA who moves to KY is single all of a sudden? Health benefits, insurance .... does not work. The so long as the state is involved in marriage, the SCOTUS will not let them decided who can and cant be married.
 
Maybe they need to stay in San Francisco or better yet, move to N.H.
 
southwind said:
 
Maybe they need to stay in San Francisco or better yet, move to N.H.
no one is moving to that chithole unless forced , look at your potential neighbors
 
Ms Tree said:
   

And the standards are the same. Fill out the paperwork and they give me a new one when I turn in the old one. No test is needed. If I do not have an old DL then I have to take the test. No one who has a DL in one state is barred from having a DL in any other state.
 
That's funny, Michigan didn't see it that way when I moved there. Only reason Pa gave me mine back was it hadn't expired....if it would have, I would have retested.
 
States rights issue w/ gay unions.   Equality but no redefinition of marriage.
 
eolesen said:
IMHO, having a positive ruling for Obamacare wouldn't be the worst thing.

It's eventually going to crumble under its own weight as premiums keep going up, and why should Republicans be in the hot seat to fix a problem the Victimcrats created?
^^^This^^^
 
As I thought, the court gave Obamacare a clear path to continue collapsing under its own weight. Subsidies will continue, and rates will continue to double and triple come October.
 
When it does, nobody will be able to point to a single GOP vote for this.
 
Ms Tree said:
And the standards are the same. Fill out the paperwork and they give me a new one when I turn in the old one. No test is needed. If I do not have an old DL then I have to take the test. No one who has a DL in one state is barred from having a DL in any other state.
Not entirely true. You're not banned, but you don't get equal rights from state to state.

There are six states who issue a restricted license to 14 and 15 year olds, and 12 states issue unrestriced licenses below age 18.

At the other end of the spectrum, 12 have restricted licenses until 18 and one (DC) has restricted licenses until 21.

Anyone with an unrestricted license moving into a state where age related restrictions are in place is bound by the restrictions.

My oldest son found that out the hard way moving with an unrestricted license and having it replaced with a restricted license even though he'd been driving without restrictions for over a year.
 
 
eolesen said:
As I thought, the court gave Obamacare a clear path to continue collapsing under its own weight. Subsidies will continue, and rates will continue to double and triple come October.
 
When it does, nobody will be able to point to a single GOP vote for this.
 

Not entirely true. You're not banned, but you don't get equal rights from state to state.

There are six states who issue a restricted license to 14 and 15 year olds, and 12 states issue unrestriced licenses below age 18.

At the other end of the spectrum, 12 have restricted licenses until 18 and one (DC) has restricted licenses until 21.

Anyone with an unrestricted license moving into a state where age related restrictions are in place is bound by the restrictions.

My oldest son found that out the hard way moving with an unrestricted license and having it replaced with a restricted license even though he'd been driving without restrictions for over a year.
 

Even though there are certain variances between states, all people at some point are allowed to obtain DL's and once a person passes what ever age the restrictions fall off (21 by your account) a person can go to any state and get a DL without issue so long as all requirements are met.

This is all more than likely a moot point. The SCOTUS will more than likely lift all restrictions of marriage and the Republic will march on. The people who signed the silly letter are goingt o to have to figure out how to protest the ruling but in the end it will not matter one iota doe to the fact that none of the signatories has the ability much less legal right to inhibit the law in any way shape or form. Short of a constitutional amendment there is really nothing that can be done. Because even though Huckabee and a few others seem to think that the SCOTUS does not have the final say, they really do.
 
Two REPUBLICAN appointed Supreme Court Justices help make Obamacare  The ... " L A W  of the  L A N D "  !!!!
 
People with PRE EXISTING conditions  can  N O T  be denied Coverage.
 
Let SCALIA / ALIOTO / and (uncle) CLARENCE  go off in a corner and POUT.
(or a lil' mini  Circle Jerk. )
 
I can't Wait till the SCOTUS Drops the  Marriage Equality BOMB right on Top of thier F'n Heads.
(And I'm predicting ANOTHER 6-3 vote with Roberts and Kennedy, Breyer and the Ladies) !!
 
SCREW the GOP  !!!!!!
 
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
"No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice, and family. In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than once they were. As some of the petitioners in these cases demonstrate, marriage embodies a love that may endure even past death. It would misunderstand these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage. Their plea is that they do respect it, respect it so deeply that they seek to find its fulfillment for themselves. Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilizations oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right.
The judgment of the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit is reversed.

It is so ordered."

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf
 
Good. That's two less issues to make a mountain out of in the next election cycle.
 
If rights are conferred by the Creator then You should be able to marry whomever you chose above the age of consent.
 
If rights are conferred by the government then ObamaCare would also be appropriate. 
 
Just remember in a country that confers rights to citizens that the same government can give or take away rights on a whim. In some third world this countries this can be as basic as property ownership/rights.
 
Here we now seem willing to try to slit the hair and have both types of rights when it suits us,
 
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