They've Landed,how Long Can We Endure?

[robbedagain]

southwest is interested in aquiring in assessts such as gate space but will not invest in bankrupt usairways. of course this means that since usair has employees who arent assessts, then i guess swa wouldnt want the employees just the space and the 737s

 

[ClueByFour]

Southwest's arrival in PIT will not have the effect it once had. Furthermore, do not be surprised if PIT is further downsized and consolidated with the November schedule change after the summer travel season and assets moved westward.

[post="266430"][/post]​

You sang the "westward ho!" song before. After the minor detour thru FLL, exactly where are these assets going? US won't get ORD or DEN (since US will go long before UA does), so that leaves PHX and LAS. HP is doing nicely against LUV in these markets, but that's with management that gets it and payrates that are still (in some cases) less than US.

OTOH, MHV is west of PIT. And the great thing is that when and if US pulls capacity, other airlines are happy to come in and scoop it up.

From the USA Today article:

About 3.7 million people flew out of Pittsburgh International Airport last year, the most ever, and more are expected this year because of Southwest's new service.

The area's interests are clearly best served without US as a hub carrier. See BNA and RDU for the reference model. And enjoy the commute.

 

[WNrforlife]

I'm glad that most of the WN employees have a lot more class than you do. It's the 1% Factor. 1% of the world's population are jerks. I guess you know where you fall in the equation.

Every Dog has it's day. Just wait.

[post="266493"][/post]​

I,m sorry. The truth must really hurt.

B) B) B)

 

[sfb]

Southwest's arrival in PIT will not have the effect it once had.

So US can afford to lose $50-100 million per quarter in revenue from PIT as the fares come down? PIT still represents somewhere around 5-10% of the system's capacity, and the pressure from low-fare carriers had remained limited, especially on short-haul routes. Virtually no one will pay $250-400 to fly PIT-PHL anymore, nor will they pay over $200 to fly PIT-PVD/MHT/BDL.

Furthermore, do not be surprised if PIT is further downsized and consolidated with the November schedule change after the summer travel season and assets moved westward.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened with the August schedule change what with the company returning an additional ten aircraft. Maybe those assets (737-300's) will be moving westward to DAL to be repainted into Southwest colors.

 

[wnbubbleboy]

southwest is interested in aquiring in assessts such as gate space but will not invest in bankrupt usairways. of course this means that since usair has employees who arent assessts, then i guess swa wouldnt want the employees just the space and the 737s

[post="266498"][/post]​

I was a U employee I've been here 12 years. Other X U employees less or more time, so it's all in how you look at it. We just don't want anybody that displays form that reflects the first three letters of ASSessts.

Come on over the coffee's hot all and are welcome.

 

[skyflyr69]

I'm glad that most of the WN employees have a lot more class than you do. It's the 1% Factor. 1% of the world's population are jerks. I guess you know where you fall in the equation.

Every Dog has it's day. Just wait.

[post="266493"][/post]​

Yeah, look how "luv" treated the Muse Air employees. SWA -ucks and their pricing is predatory which should be stopped.

:down:

 

[ELP_WN_Psgr]

skyflyer, running from the WN board to the U board to disseminate false information about the Southwest acquisition of Muse won't really accomplish anything.

Also....it isn't predatory if you make money doing it.

 

[boeing787]

Time for U to be put in a museum

 

[N924PS]

Time for U to be put in a museum

[post="266797"][/post]​

It will be right next to the United Airlines exhibit.

 

[boeing787]

Hey there now....U first! 😛

 

[sfb]

You know as much as I loathe SWA their pricing is no more predatory then the legacy carriers were monopolistic and monolithic with their continued gouging of the flying public.

It's not even predatory pricing if you make a profit doing it. If you go just by system CASM, $29 from PIT to PHL makes a profit for them, though since the distance between PIT and PHL is shorter than the system average, it's probably break-even at best.

Legacy carriers KNEW long before 9/11 that the day of reckoning would soon be upon them all 9/11 did was accelerate the problems and bring the issues to a head.

US Airways knew in 1994, if not earlier. That sentence pretty much sums up what has happened in the last four years in the industry.

 

[wnbubbleboy]

Yeah, look how "luv" treated the Muse Air employees. SWA -ucks and their pricing is predatory which should be stopped.

:down:

[post="266719"][/post]​

Go for it Skippy.

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/

 

[AirplaneFan]

It's not even predatory pricing if you make a profit doing it. If you go just by system CASM, $29 from PIT to PHL makes a profit for them, though since the distance between PIT and PHL is shorter than the system average, it's probably break-even at best.
US Airways knew in 1994, if not earlier. That sentence pretty much sums up what has happened in the last four years in the industry.

[post="266842"][/post]​

I think that the go-go times of the late 1990's allowed the airlines to deceive themselves into believing that passengers would continue to pay exhobitant fares into perpetuity. The airlines demise was when the Y2K scare was over and the dot.com bubble burst. The problems were certainly exacerbated with the events of 9/11, but SW was able to turn a profit in each quarter (with govt. help)

 

[U 737 PILOT]

I,m sorry. The truth must really hurt.

B) B) B)

[post="266506"][/post]​

The truth is ..... you ..... are a JACKA$$ !!!!!!

 

[madders]

You all so centered around domestic travel that you do not see a problem that would arise if Usairways goes under.
The problem is international travel....dont you think prices would go up.

And do you all really thing that only WN would profit from U demise.
If U go under the other majors in a good position to move in on U international routes and domestic routes
Dl with its partnership with NW/CO could really make things interesting for WN