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From the Rocky Montain News:

Rough Landing

20 percent: The approval rating Forbes.com readers gave UAL CEO Glenn Tilton, below, for the month of August. The rating landed him in the worst-ranked list.

I swear they have an axe to grind. In any event - just wanted to post and keep this thread for UA Employees and Customers only please.

Regardless - I think he's doing a great job. :up:

ALSO: It's important to note that AA's Arpey is at 28%. See the poll.
 
United Chicago,

Thanks for breaking this story. (wink,wink)

I think they do have an axe to grind. I think Tilton is doing a great job too. So do most people I talk to.

What does Forbes know anyway? :down:
 
I believe someone once said somthing like "Mans thirst for knowledge is insatiable". Perhaps the media, and some others, view Tilton somewhat poorly because he does not offer any "drink" to quench their "thirst". And why should he? He is running an airline, not a "drink" bar.
 
IMHO Steve Forbes and/or some reporters must have missed and important meeting or two during the summer of 2000. Forbes has been ticked at United ever since then. Maybe United and/or some pilots should take Steve to lunch to find out what it would take to get back in his good graces?! 😉
 
novaqt said:
IMHO Steve Forbes and/or some reporters must have missed and important meeting or two during the summer of 2000. Forbes has been ticked at United ever since then. Maybe United and/or some pilots should take Steve to lunch to find out what it would take to get back in his good graces?! 😉
IMHO, I have not seen summarized or expressed ANY negative opinion at UAL that was not blamed on the bias of the person expressing the opinion. Almost like it's a PR effort on these boards.


That said, I do think it is human nature for analyst types to count silence against members of the community that they analyze. That must be frustrating. But silence is not evidence of good news.

Also, leaders' saying that the news is good without providing evidence or a plan that can be independently evaluated is not evidence of actual good news or the existence of a good plan. It is evidence that the speaker wishes to communicate that the news is good and that there is a plan.

Perhaps, Ive spent too much time investigating claims, that I'm so cynical. I'm not saying that UAL's prospects are bad. But I am saying that undermining UAL's detractors IS NOT evidence of UAL's success.

Internet church ladies, please don't attack me (and I'm not referring to the thankless moderators).

PS: Thank you, moderators.
 
Rowunder,
Did you say there was a plan for your local bus company to take over all UAL flying east of mississippi? Express a thoughtful, FACTUAL post that utilizes CURRENT data, doesn't take things completely out of context, and acknowledge it when one of your theories is disproven or the data you used to come to that conclusion is no longer valid, and you won't have a problem with us 😉
 
This poll appears to be more of a reflection of each company's financial performance rather than the performance of the CEO. On the bright side, he's nearly doubled his approval ratings since March 2003.
Let's step back for a moment and consider the demographics of those who responded to this poll. Many Forbes readers are investors. How many investors have an axe to grind after losing a decent chunk of money in UAL stock?
Also, it seemed to me that when UAL was the largest airline (prior to AMR's acquisition of TWA), UAL was constantly a target of negative comments. That is the price that you pay in the US for being successful. Compare public attitudes of United with Microsoft or the Dallas Cowboys (during their glory years with Roger Staubach). Americans tend to root for the underdog and dislike Goliaths.

RowUnderDCA, as for Tilton not having a reorg plan, where did you get that information? I would bet my house (disclaimer: I'm a furloughee, so it's currently a cardboard box) against the change in your pocket (including the lint) that UAL has not one, but several plans in the works. And I'd bet my dinners for the next week (fresh from the dumpster out back of Denny's) against a can of spam that UAL management can deftly switch plans on a dime. Current UAL management may be a lot of things :censored: , but incompetent is not one of their traits.
Just as President Bush didn't publically release the military's plans for Iraq, Tilton is keeping UAL's reorg plan close to the vest.


To all of the UAL employees still on property, I'd like to comment on the job that you're doing. Specifically the CSRs and Flight Attendants out there. I've been nonreving quite a bit lately, and I don't recall ever getting treated so well so often by any airline. And it's not just me; it's all of the passengers.
The place where I've noticed the biggest difference is with ORD CSRs I've passed through ORD ~5 times in the last month. I was only treated with less than red carpet service once, and that was after the CSR found out that I was a nonrev. The CSRs and Flight Attendants, IMHO, have the toughest jobs at UAL. They are the face of UAL, and have the greatest influence on our customers. Keep up the great work. :up:
How full are UAL's planes? I have spent a lot of time sitting in airports waiting for flights, only to have them fly away full of revenue passengers while I shuffled down the concourse hoping to get on the next flight. This week was the first time I got a seat in F in a LONG time.
As for UAL's RPMs, it looks like UAL is dumping less and less tickets on hotwire.com and priceline.com, increasing our yields. As the economy continues to recover, so will United and the entire airline industry.
 
Great post ifly! I second your compliment on the service of the great UA employees. I hope you get recalled soon.

Lets not also forget that Tilton - in addition to adding fresh blood in senior management - has also added two strong new board members with exceptional credentials.

The most impressive is Dipak C. Jain -- Dean, Kellogg School of Management Northwestern University.

Lets not forget that Tilton ulimately reports to the board and Judge Wedloff. If they had no plan - you can bet that - at least the UA BOD - would be all over Tilton.
 
Jeez folks --- all your energy wasted on unscientific poll results --- why are you outraged? This thread only serves to stir the negative vibes on the board and lord knows we've got enough of that over at the US forums.
 
hell:

I was just trying to beat you-know-who to the punch by posting this and then requesting only UA employees and customers.

This is exactly the type of article - as unscientific and flimsy as it is - that gets you-know-who all excited.
 
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I have also been traveling quite a bit over the last 2 months and have noticed employees going beyond.
Even though I am poor, I get to vacation with many wealthy people I have met over the years, and they use other airlines instead of Ual. They say they use Ual only when nescessary. Folks, The weallthy and business people are the ones we want on our planes. The empty seats should be filled up with the vacation traveler.
Even with full flights I don't think Ual is doing all it could to change the bottom line.

Until Ual really adopts a new culture that they beleive in, and empower the employees to make good decisions, and therefore reduce non productive management people, they will never get to a bottom line low cost carriers have, because they only talk the walk. This is not rocket science.

I just don't see the rosy picture everyone is looking at here.
Tilton needs to think out of the box. Get rid of brick and mortar, offer incentives to productive employees and don't sell them short.

Teach and give them prospective. Don't choke the goose till it gives up the last egg.
Nourish the goose through good ideas and work ethics. Then there will be more eggs than they can spend.

Nobody gets something for nothing. You have to earn it.
 

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