Union Representation?

[MCI transplant]

<_< -------- Has anyone looked into the possibility of representation by the UAW? There is an article in USA-today websight today, saying they are looking to expand their representation. It would become the "United Auto and Aerospace Workers Union". -----------Just a thought!

 

[Tex-Mech]

<_< -------- Has anyone looked into the possibility of representation by the UAW? There is an article in USA-today websight today, saying they are looking to expand their representation. It would become the "United Auto and Aerospace Workers Union". -----------Just a thought!

No raid clause with AFL-CIO might be an issue.

 

[MCI transplant]

No raid clause with AFL-CIO might be an issue.

<_< ------ Don't know!------- Are they AFL/CIO?

 

[Duke787]

Wasn't the teamsters looking into us at one time?

 

[Kev3188]

<_< ------ Don't know!------- Are they AFL/CIO?

I think they are...

 

[The Goose]

I think they are...

Yes - UAW is AFL-CIO.

The Teamsters were but dropped out as did the SEIU(?) - AMFA never was affiliated with anything except an old man that was dying to strike a major airlines.

As I understand it, the Teamsters aren't interested in AA even though they technically needn't follow the "no-raid" agreement between AFL-CIO affiliates. A few people have been calling them and the calls aren't being returned, supposedly.

 

[aapitbull]

Yes - UAW is AFL-CIO.

The Teamsters were but dropped out as did the SEIU(?) - AMFA never was affiliated with anything except an old man that was dying to strike a major airlines.

As I understand it, the Teamsters aren't interested in AA even though they technically needn't follow the "no-raid" agreement between AFL-CIO affiliates. A few people have been calling them and the calls aren't being returned, supposedly.

Most of the time I agree with the things you say but I do not understand why you want to bad mouth O.V. Dell Femine He dedicated his life to the goal of a mechanics union, he had many victories and losses and contrary to what you just posted this was not AMFA first strike. It's interesting that when the NWA mechanics went to the PEB and got all of us a 6 dollar an hour raise I didn't hear you bitching.

As I have stated hear before I get it you didn't like AMFA fine what is your answer to the problem at hand? Besides bitching what are you prepared to do to improve our lot? O.V. spent over 40 years trying to fight for what he thought was right spent his own money ask his friend to help for free and is due a helll of alot of respect whether you agree with him or not!

How do you hate a man who worked his whole life for the betterment of others?

 

[MCI transplant]

<_< -------- Well, one thing seems pretty obvious to anyone following this fiasco, is you need to due something! If nothing else, this last round of talks shows you where the TWU/AA are taking you!----- If not the UAW, start your own Union! 😉 But the longer you put up with this Bull Pucky, the worse it's going to get! ----- Hell, doesn't take the I.Q. of a Missouri mule to see that!!! But than again, I don't know the I.Q. of one born in Oklahoma!

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

Yes - UAW is AFL-CIO.

The Teamsters were but dropped out as did the SEIU(?) - AMFA never was affiliated with anything except an old man that was dying to strike a major airlines.

As I understand it, the Teamsters aren't interested in AA even though they technically needn't follow the "no-raid" agreement between AFL-CIO affiliates. A few people have been calling them and the calls aren't being returned, supposedly.

And what did you do to better the profession ?????

Support the TWU ????

 

[The Goose]

And what did you do to better the profession ?????

Support the TWU ????

Sorry you didn't care for the answer. Hardly a TWU supporter, FYI.

 

[whoop whoop]

Yes - UAW is AFL-CIO.

The Teamsters were but dropped out as did the SEIU(?) - AMFA never was affiliated with anything except an old man that was dying to strike a major airlines.

As I understand it, the Teamsters aren't interested in AA even though they technically needn't follow the "no-raid" agreement between AFL-CIO affiliates. A few people have been calling them and the calls aren't being returned, supposedly.

First, the ibt is no better for the AMT than the twu is. Second, why would you bash a person that spent his whole career trying to make YOUR profession better. AMFA is the only union that raised the standard for the AMT, AMFA is the only union that stood up and fought for the AMT, AMFA is the only union that is still fighting for the AMT.
It boggles my mind why an AMT is looking for another union to represent him/her???? You have a union in AMFA that is there for you, run by AMT's like you. Why you would not try to make it stronger puzzles me????
You don't see electricians wanting to be represented by the teachers union, you don't see longshoreman wanting to be represented by the sheet metal union. If people opened their eyes and put half the energy into making AMFA what it should be, than just listening to the people that want to see AMFA fail and fighting against it, the AMT profession would be what it once was.

 

[1AA]

Having AMFA represent us or try to convince the members here at AA requires a good marketing campaign. The TWU will bash them over the NWA strike. All unions have had their ups and downs over the years. Yes I agree AMFA is our best choice for our class and craft but many members I talked too say AMFA screwed up at NW and will never consider them. It will take a good convincing to push AMFA here at AA again. This is a victory for the TWU and this is why I feel they can negotiate any contract they want knowing that AMFA is no longer a threat. So what do we do next? Form our own union? That worked for the Pilots and Flight Attendants here at AA. I feel that our AMT's are not motivated and educated (Pissed off) enough as a group to make the move. Until we have direction among our group we have nothing else to move on.

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

Yes - UAW is AFL-CIO.

The Teamsters were but dropped out as did the SEIU(?) - AMFA never was affiliated with anything except an old man that was dying to strike a major airlines.

As I understand it, the Teamsters aren't interested in AA even though they technically needn't follow the "no-raid" agreement between AFL-CIO affiliates. A few people have been calling them and the calls aren't being returned, supposedly.

Why do you try to insult a man who used his time and energy in order to provide democracy and accountability in unionism for a craft union? Instead of pretending that AMFA was not a union because it wasn't affiliated with the afl-cio why don't you ask the question why other unions are afraid of AMFA. Maybe it's because everyone in AMFA is elected into office and not appointed.

 

[SkydrolJunkie]

I feel that our AMT's are not motivated and educated

You got that right...

 

[The Goose]

Why do you try to insult a man who used his time and energy in order to provide democracy and accountability in unionism for a craft union? Instead of pretending that AMFA was not a union because it wasn't affiliated with the afl-cio why don't you ask the question why other unions are afraid of AMFA. Maybe it's because everyone in AMFA is elected into office and not appointed.

It's rather hard for me to hold anyone in esteem that personally profits rather handsomely under the guise of "Saving the Craft". Nothing can be saved while on the street looking for a job.

Stupid decisions were made that cost many their jobs and livelihoods. As said by George Patton (paraphrased), "One doesn't win a war by dying for their country - a war is won by making the other SOB die for his country." The year and a half AMFA allowed NWA to get their ducks in a row before the so-called "strike" was near suicide to the Association and to a large degree, the AMT trade.

I hold no respect for stupid decisions such as these that cost American jobs and it's guaranteed I never will. Bring something to the table better than what we presently have and I'll be one of the first to sign a card.

Bottom line, this "my union is better than yours" argument makes as much sense as arguing Republicans vs: Democrats. Both are in business to get rich off the backs of believers. At the upper level, there's actually no difference at all between the the two, be it political parties or unions, and plenty of "issues" are thrown out for the rabble to argue over while the "ins" do what they damned well please with nobody watching.