United To Cut Transcons

[iflyjetz]

Let me EXPLAIN to you my friend, I put the past aside everyday I suit up. I fight tooth and nail to put the best airplanes up that I can (and I'm not alone on this).

You and your fellow mechanics are doing a ******** job, ronin. I've been flying quite a bit and seen the 'quality' of your work. Duct tape to seal off first class storage bins (duct tape 'em; don't fix 'em). Oxygen panels that drop out on landing. NUMEROUS seats that are unable to remain in the full vertical position. I keep telling FAs about bad seats, but they are more and more frequent.
I'm at the point where I'd like to see UAL just contract out maintenance. It's gotten extremely ********. They obviously furloughed all the mechanics that were worth anything; which is why, I assume, you're still on property. Yeah, great work ronin. You and your fellow mechanics' efforts will be sure to win back customers (NOT!). :down:

 

[UnitedChicago]

ouch

 

[iflyjetz]

ouch

If I notice, you can be damned well sure that Premiers notice. The mechanics' lack of attention to detail is going to kill UAL. (Feelling like an EAL deja vu ... EAL/UAL ... connection?).

 

[mrfish3726]

I'm at the point where I'd like to see UAL just contract out maintenance.

Iflyjetz,

Sir, obviously you are not to well informed that UAL ALREADY contracted out all of its heavy maintenance. They have laid-off half the mechanic work force that once exceeded 13K+. United is working right at the FAA mechanics ratio (MINIMUMS) right now at most all of their line operations. When you have a few 1000 mechanics trying to maintain a fleet of almost 500 aircraft, that is not an easy thing to do after United PURPOSELY shed their maintenance responsibilities.

And if you don't remember, one of the people in charge of UAL OPERATIONS Mr. Pete McDonald once said during the mechanics labor talks and I QUOTE, "We are in the people moving business, not the Maintenance business." SO sir, if you have any complaints as to the maintenance and repair of UAL's aircraft. I think you should take that up with Mr. McDonald and cut the mechanics at UAL a little F*&%NG slack.

You hang in there Ronin UAL has always sucked! But maybe with the right investors in there soon it will get better.

 

[WorldTraveler]

The sad reality is that a disgrunted maintenance workforce can take down the airline no matter how hard everyone else tries. EAL certainly comes to mind as does US right now. The fact that UA decided to ground the 767-200s and contract out the mods on the ps 757s is not a ringing endorsement by UA of the maintenance operation. I would certainly hope that UAL management would realize that taking a play from the failed EA and now US playbook is not a way to turn UA around but they seem to be doing exactly that.

 

[iflyjetz]

mrfish, interior repairs do NOT qualify as heavy maintenance. I am well aware that heavy maintenance is being contracted out. Normal wear and tear items are being neglected; we're not talking about periodic checks here. Bottom line to me is that the mechanics that are left on property are maintenance deferring as much as possible rather than fixing the problems.

 

[UnitedChicago]

If I notice, you can be damned well sure that Premiers notice. The mechanics' lack of attention to detail is going to kill UAL. (Feelling like an EAL deja vu ... EAL/UAL ... connection?).

Actually - nothing has caught my eye as being run down over the last year of flying. I'd say the increased level of quality service from all touchpoints on united set right after bk has not declined.

As a paying customer to all work groups at united: thanks for the great service during interesting times!

 

[The Ronin]

Let me tell you what you SOB....when and IF you can get a f**k'n part, which are mostly vendor supplied btw (to save costs), THEY DONT WORK. I had to put in 5 NEW PARTS IN ONE TIME FROM THE VENDOR BEFORE ONE WOULD WORK!!! You've got no idea how hard these things are being pushed and what effort it is taking to keep them going...NO FREAK"N IDEA. And guess what dumbsh*t...we got a lump out of BFM the other day. Been out for a couple of days.....IT HAD A DOZEN LOGS AND CMC'S ON IT. Everything from HF...to Vhf (which wasn't even hooked up and when we did find the cable guess what??? there wasn't even a connector on the end of it!!! Busted cargo loading, galleys not working, IDG sh*t on #4...#1pac inop. We had another lump in for an engine change....guess what Einstien....over 56 SMC's for robbed parts. And we haven't even begun with the chronics. How about the R Eiu that dumped twice last night along with the R WX XCVR, or the left GPS system thats inop and no antenna to be found. Not to mention the blade set that had to be put on #2 Eng....and your WORRIED about your f*ck'n upright seat, stupid m***erf***er ought to be worried about going up and getting back down.

:angry:

 

[mrfish3726]

RONIN

Tell them guys to go see PETE! He's the one that thinks UAL shouldn't be in the maintenance business

 

[UAL_TECH]

You and your fellow mechanics are doing a ******** job, ronin. I've been flying quite a bit and seen the 'quality' of your work. Duct tape to seal off first class storage bins (duct tape 'em; don't fix 'em). Oxygen panels that drop out on landing. NUMEROUS seats that are unable to remain in the full vertical position. I keep telling FAs about bad seats, but they are more and more frequent.
I'm at the point where I'd like to see UAL just contract out maintenance. It's gotten extremely ********. They obviously furloughed all the mechanics that were worth anything; which is why, I assume, you're still on property. Yeah, great work ronin. You and your fellow mechanics' efforts will be sure to win back customers (NOT!). :down:

iflyjetz,

Very good retort (NOT)!

When you made your 'official' complaint to the maintenance staff, what was their reply? As we well know, when there are items not being addressed there is a process wherein you lodge your complaint and if it is not corrected, it is your obligation to perform a follow-up. Your complaint on this BB will not resolve anything and does not instill confidence of our flying staff to the public.

My recommendation is to lodge your complaints in the appropriate manner and if they are not rectified, that you elevate your issues through the chain of responsibility until you are face-to-face with Glenn. If these issues really bothered you this much, why did you wait to vent your ‘perception’ over the internet before taking the action that you should have?

Some of us (at least my take) may ‘assume’ that your reply was made out of spite and you really did not have a whimsical (if not intelligent) ‘come back’ (retort) that was credible.

As many ‘wise and all knowing’ pilots tell me on this BB, talk to your Union Rep.

JMHO,
:huh: UT

 

[UAL_TECH]

Actually - nothing has caught my eye as being run down over the last year of flying. I'd say the increased level of quality service from all touchpoints on united set right after bk has not declined.

As a paying customer to all work groups at united: thanks for the great service during interesting times!

UnitedChicago,

Thank you for your observations and patronage.
We do what we can with what we have and if our service does not meet your expectations, please let us know.

JMHO,
UT

 

[ohcaptainron]

UALTECH AND OTHERS:
Our mechanics ARE the best in business. They generally work their butts off to keep this airline flying. To suggest otherwise is unfair and irresponsible. There are places and times to discuss a "problem" and a public fourm is NEVER appropriate.

Ron

 

[UAL_TECH]

UALTECH AND OTHERS:
Our mechanics ARE the best in business. They generally work their butts off to keep this airline flying. To suggest otherwise is unfair and irresponsible. There are places and times to discuss a "problem" and a public fourm is NEVER appropriate.

Ron

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Ron,
Thanks, and I agree 100%.
We are all in a 'funky' situation and need to keep our heads.
Feel free to smack me upside the head when I get out of line (as I'm sure I will).


Take Care,
UT