Us Airways-america West Merger

[UseYourHead]

With the industry quickly morphing, can UAir/AWA successfully integrate creating a viable cometitor, assuming of course that leadership at the senior level is up to the task.

These two airlines have battle proven employees who have been through much, and although integration issues always present challenges, in the big picture they are just a blip along the way in ones career.

For these employee groups to embrace these challenges will be a big payoff for the employees who once again want to proudly do the work we do everyday, for a management team we are all behind!

Or, in the face of JetBlue/AirTran/Southwest, do they create an insurmoubtable barrier?

 

[delldude]

With the industry quickly morphing, can UAir/AWA successfully integrate creating a viable cometitor, assuming of course that leadership at the senior level is up to the task.
not with current management
These two airlines have battle proven employees who have been through much, and although integration issues always present challenges, in the big picture they are just a blip along the way in ones career.
battle proven? try raped and pillaged to be more specific
For these employee groups to embrace these challenges will be a big payoff for the employees who once again want to proudly do the work we do everyday, for a management team we are all behind!
you smoking something you shouldn't be or what?
Or, in the face of JetBlue/AirTran/Southwest, do they create an insurmoubtable barrier?

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[Trin03]

Yes, As long as US airways management team is dilluted AND the Western half of the United States is not given away like US airways did with PSA

 

[Winglet]

First of all, both companies are losing money. U is hemmoragging from 2 arteries and AW bleeding. Combining the companies isn't going to change that. What it will do is inject some blood (cash) to keep breathing for a while longer. It doesn't change the corporate/employee culture at U. The integration costs will be huge and UAL, DAL, SW, and JB aren't going to give AWA a free ride by not competing.

Big payoffs for employees??? I guess if you're talking about a paycheck for a while longer it is.

 

[markkus757]

I think this merger is enough to allow the combined company to survive short term. It all depends on who goes out of business in the next 18 months. I believe someone will, I just don't think this company is going to get all this money and squander it in that time. Long-term, they are going to have some very tough decisions to make in regards to the direction of the company. I think they seriously have to look at changing management in the east just because of the venom. I wouldn't know whether or not they are as bad as people on this board say they are. I'm not in a position to accurately tell that. As far as integration costs, I think they will/should be kept a minimum and they should run both airlines seperately until long term fleet choices are decided and they figure out what direction the company should go in. I think if they can bring the competitive spirit that exists at AWA to the whole company they can and will compete with WN and the others. They both share two major hubs in the west and if AWA could not compete, they would would've disappeared a long time ago(read BWI).

 

[delldude]

you make valid points.....
the only things i can tell you from working in PIT maintenance for some 18 years is the mismanagement i've seen on the floor and it is quite annoying.
all the time supervisory coverup and hiding at every level of the tree.....CYA rules the roost.
these things were to be addressed with the new regime and there was much talk but then it went back to the same old stuff just like under every other new regime...nothing changed at all,in fact it has gotten worse.
unless its a shake up from the top down with HP in the driver seat it'll be more of the same. i'm sad to say.....

 

[sand2snow]

Here is an article that talks about some of the possible investors, Air Canada, GE and Airbus with the possibility that 20 A350's will be ordered.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/936e1826-c565-11d...000e2511c8.html

 

[700UW]

Air Canada just placed a big Boeing order.

April 25, 2005: 7:31 AM EDT

NEW YORK (Reuters) - ACE Aviation Holdings Inc., the parent company of Air Canada, said Monday it made firm orders for 18 Boeing 777 jets and 14 of the company's 787 Dreamliner jets, in a deal worth $5 billion at list prices.

As part of a plan to overhaul Air Canada's fleet, ACE said it also had options to buy a further 18 more 777 jets and 46 more 787s.

 

[WorldTraveler]

The irony of this merger for US is that the west coast looks pretty attractive right now when compared with the revenue environment up and down the east coast. DL disbanded alot of its north-south flying up and down the west coast after its Western acquisition but has kept SLC as a fairly decent (and now growing) hub; AA eventually pulled down alot of what it acquired, leaving a small hub at SJC. Granted, airlines do have the ability to shift assets fairly quickly and 15-20 years is an eternity in the airline industry but US will work well w/ HP if it is consummated. I suspect other carriers will kick themselves for letting HP get their hands on US.

I'd still like to know how the relationship will be between UA and HP-US.

 

[TheDog2004]

If America West is calling the shots, then it has a great chance to succeed.

If US Airways is calling the shots, then it WILL fail.

I'd be worried about integrating the two cultures. there's a lot of hard feelings at US Airways after two trips through bankruptcy. America West has not only survived, but managed to do so at two of Southwest's biggest hubs - LAS and PHX.

US Airways, on the other hand, has been getting clobbered for years by Southwest on the east coast.

These two airlines couldn't be any different in culture and experience, IMHO.

The route network will be impressive, however. Only UAL would have better hubs. The only thing that's really missing is a mid-continent hub - there's a lot of traffic going from the midwest to the southwest and this structure will miss that market completely. It's not as big as the east coast north/south market but it's always been there and right now it's owned by AA, UA, and SW.

 

[JungleClone]

A combined HP/US will not be a viable entity until you get the high costs out of the US Airways system.

 

[USA320Pilot]

ACE Aviation Holdings Inc., the parent of Air Canada, may help fund merger

People close to the talks say the Air Canada deal would result in advantages “such as winning maintenance work form the combined airline and building stronger relationships with other members of the global Star Alliance marketing group,â€￾ the newspaper said.

See Story

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[a320av8r]

"I'd be worried about integrating the two cultures. there's a lot of hard feelings at US Airways after two trips through bankruptcy."

How many trips has HP had through bankruptcy?

I don't think that there'll be "culture shock" with the majority of the employees since the majority is made up of former PSA and Piedmont.

I'm anxious to unload the USAir legacy and, hopefully, look to blue skies.

 

[TheDog2004]

"I'd be worried about integrating the two cultures. there's a lot of hard feelings at US Airways after two trips through bankruptcy."

How many trips has HP had through bankruptcy?
I think that there'll b not "culture shock" with the majority of the employees since the majority of the employees is made up of PSA and Piedmont.
I'm anxious to unload the USAir legacy and, hopefully, look to blue skies.

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I'm referring to the recent events that have happened at US Airways. I am under the impression that there is a TON of resentment in the rank and file towards not only their management but their own union leadership.

I think the 'unload USAir legacy' comment is dead on. If US Airways' employees can look ahead and put the unfortunate recent events behind them then it might work.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

A combined HP/US will not be a viable entity until you get the high costs out of the US Airways system.

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And you know all about that at United Airlines don't you?