US Airways denied permit to sell alcohol in New Mexico

[JayBrian]

Article here

 

[aerosmith]

"A spokeswoman for US Airways, Andrea Raider, said Thursday the airline is reviewing the order and will make a decision based on that review"
I guess US Airways still thinks thier above the law.

 

[freedom]

I don’t see how it’s our companies fault that the drunk driver was too stupid to know either 1 . When to stop drinking or 2 . Not to drink and drive .This is so not our fault , ohhh he had too much to drink on our flight did he ? Well if he was that intoxicated how did he find his car after he got off his flight ? Shows he wasn’t sooo stupid he couldn’t remember where he parked it , and THEN he drove to a convince store and had some more to drink ? Gimme a break , why doesn‘t New Mexico just blame the root of the cause , alcohol companies , but noo that stretch would illustrate all to obviously that their looking for a SCAPEGOAT .



Here's what i think doug parker would comment on this issue .

Drunk driving

 

[cynic]

...why doesn‘t New Mexico just blame the root of the cause , alcohol companies , but noo that stretch would illustrate all to obviously that their looking for a SCAPEGOAT...

I was with you until you said the alcohol manufacturers. It's a matter of personal responsibility, not corporate liability.

 

[N965VJ]

Hagan said the state had sent a letter to US Airways offering to resolve the citation through a settlement, but the airline never responded.

"That citation is still open, it's never been dealt with," Hagan said.

What, not even a form letter and some Vouchers?

 

[FWAAA]

The New Mexico spokeshole, Bob Hagan, is a complete idiot.

From the article:

The denial means US Airways cannot serve alcohol while its airplanes are flying over New Mexico or while grounded in the state, said Bob Hagan, a spokesman for the department.

Denial of the permit does NOT mean that US cannot serve alcohol in the air OVER New Mexico - but it might mean that US cannot serve alcohol on the ground in that state. Bob would be well served if he learned a little bit about federal law.

 

[hp_fa]

I've said this before and I will say it again. From the perspective of a FA I frankly wish that alcohol was not served at all on any airline. Why? Because nothing good comes from it.

Let's look at some things that lead me to that position.

1. The FAA forbids airlines from boarding persons who appear to be under the influence of alcohol. The airlines, bless their hearts, have CSR's and FA's making judgment calls on who is, or isn't, under the influence based on mere seconds of interaction. Thanks to online boarding passes, the interaction is even less then it once was for the CSR's, and the FA's have the time it takes to say "Welcome aboard" to make any assessment.

2. The FAA forbids airlines from overserving alcohol to passengers. How is a team of FA's to know how much someone had to drink before a flight? How or what type of medication the person may have taken? It is only when a passenger perhaps gets argumentative that an issue may arise and even then, in this era of flying as basic transportation, being argumentative may be considered just another passenger upset at something about their wonderful (cough) flying experience.

Frankly, this is a lose-lose scenario for the FA's. The only way they win is buy not serving at all because they cannot get in trouble for not serving, while they can get in big trouble for serving.

OK, I now expect all the usual comments that blast this position, but take a second and think about it before posting that booze and commercial flights are a good mix.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I don’t see how it’s our companies fault that the drunk driver was too stupid to know either 1 . When to stop drinking or 2 . Not to drink and drive .This is so not our fault , ohhh he had too much to drink on our flight did he ? Well if he was that intoxicated how did he find his car after he got off his flight ? Shows he wasn’t sooo stupid he couldn’t remember where he parked it , and THEN he drove to a convince store and had some more to drink ? Gimme a break , why doesn‘t New Mexico just blame the root of the cause , alcohol companies , but noo that stretch would illustrate all to obviously that their looking for a SCAPEGOAT .



Here's what i think doug parker would comment on this issue .

Drunk driving

Freedom, your insulting expression to make 'humor' out of this tragedy is not only crude but also dispicable. Further, your failure to see any accountability or responsibility in selling alchohol is incredibly mind boggling in light of the 3 instances cited. What is troubling to me is that US AIRWAYS does appear more than a bit arrogant on this matter and according to the article hasn't even responded to previous attempts by NM to resolve the issue. Alchohol is not a good subject for US AIRWAYS. It is thourougly embarssing for an airline to have to be told they can't sell over a state's air. Usually many actions or inactions result in this decision by NM. I'm not sure if I've ever heard of a state being so pissed off at an airline that this has ever happened before. How many states have US AIRWAYS pissed off now and burnt bridges with? Isn't PA another one?

regards,

 

[gaucho99]

The ruling only says we are forbidden to sale alcohol while flying over New Mexico. It doesn't say we can't serve it. Looks to me like there is an easy remedy to this. Just make sure you collect any money for alcohol in advance before you enter New Mexico airspace. The FA can make the following announcement.

"In 15 minutes, we will be entering New Mexico air space where we are unable to sell alcohol. If you think you may want a drink in the next hour, please pay for it now and we can serve it later if you want."

 

[freedom]

Well Tim that's life , i think something like 50 K Americans die each year in traffic accidents , it's a horrible problem and there’s probably no one who hasn't lost someone in an accident but sadly there's nothing we can do about it , unless you want to bring back the prohibition . While it’s regrettable that people died from the stupidity of the driver , it’s not our companies fault . As for making humor of the situation , I’m not making fun of the people who died , only the issues surrounding drunk driving .

This video will REALLY offend you , so don't watch it if you don't want to be offened , more family guy

 

[jetmech01890]

I've said this before and I will say it again. From the perspective of a FA I frankly wish that alcohol was not served at all on any airline. Why? Because nothing good comes from it.

Let's look at some things that lead me to that position.

1. The FAA forbids airlines from boarding persons who appear to be under the influence of alcohol. The airlines, bless their hearts, have CSR's and FA's making judgment calls on who is, or isn't, under the influence based on mere seconds of interaction. Thanks to online boarding passes, the interaction is even less then it once was for the CSR's, and the FA's have the time it takes to say "Welcome aboard" to make any assessment.

2. The FAA forbids airlines from overserving alcohol to passengers. How is a team of FA's to know how much someone had to drink before a flight? How or what type of medication the person may have taken? It is only when a passenger perhaps gets argumentative that an issue may arise and even then, in this era of flying as basic transportation, being argumentative may be considered just another passenger upset at something about their wonderful (cough) flying experience.

Frankly, this is a lose-lose scenario for the FA's. The only way they win is buy not serving at all because they cannot get in trouble for not serving, while they can get in big trouble for serving.

OK, I now expect all the usual comments that blast this position, but take a second and think about it before posting that booze and commercial flights are a good mix.

ask leprechaun she works the gate we always hear her wine how hard her job is, why are they alowwed to board? and endanger the safety of flight?maybe they need some one to travel with them? the drunk patrol? sound familiar. Dont blame the flight crew they have way too much going on to check every passenger if they are sober So that means our favorite hard working gate agent she has to work a little harder at her job OH No whats a person to do

 

[jetmech01890]

ask leprechaun she works the gate we always hear her wine how hard her job is, why are they alowwed to board? and endanger the safety of flight?maybe they need some one to travel with them? the drunk patrol? sound familiar. Dont blame the flight crew they have way too much going on to check every passenger if they are sober So that means our favorite hard working gate agent she has to work a little harder at her job OH No whats a person to do

btw correct my spelling It will give you something to insult me about

 

[leprechaun]

jetmech, how's everything at the trailer park?

You really are a troglodyte, aren't you.

 

[necigrad]

If you drink, then drive, it's YOUR fault, and no one elses. Freedoms link wasn't bad at all. But it's going off topic.

US Airways needs to take this decision though the courts. It's the "National Airspace System" not New Mexico, when in the air. New Mexico is fully within their right to not allow us to serve alcohol on the ground. The moment the wheels are up it's Federal. The FAA has the authority, not any State.

 

[JS]

Geez, people, it helps to read the whole article. Check this out: (emphasis added)

Those two incidents and a third in which state employees witnessed US Airways flight attendants serving alcohol to a visibly intoxicated man while on board a flight from Phoenix to San Diego on Nov. 6, weighed heavily on the state's decision to deny the permit, Hagan said.