US Airways is expected to report the second-biggest loss among domestic carriers

[john john]

You're chasing your tail...

Jim

Proof

 

[john john]

Look left, look right

You’re the only girl in town

Look around..... who is responsible for express planes with so many seats?

The land sharks are responsible

 

[john john]

Big deal, I got the same stuff as well.

You were displaced because of deregulation???
And receive documentation on your rights by the LPP law provided to you because of your displacement due to deregulation

 

[BoeingBoy]

Reminded??? You know we are talking about the early 70’s

You may be talking about the early 70's but you're the only one. I have been talking about the 80's when PI had the 727-200's and flew them and/or the 737's into many of the smaller stations in NC, SC, WV that are now strictly Express if they have service at all. That wasn't happening because of regulation, which ended in 1979, but because those markets were nurtured and grown by PI and supported 4-5-6 mainline flights/day. It didn't hurt that after deregulation EA was one of the carriers that dreamed of being what was then called a national carrier so jumped on lots of long-haul routes while abandoning the small central east cities, leaving only PI and DL to serve them. People in those markets loved being able to skip the connection in ATL by connecting in CLT instead.

Jim

 

[john john]

You may be talking about the early 70's but you're the only one. I have been talking about the 80's when PI had the 727-200's and flew them and/or the 737's into many of the smaller stations in NC, SC, WV that are now strictly Express if they have service at all. That wasn't happening because of regulation, which ended in 1979, but because those markets were nurtured and grown by PI and supported 4-5-6 mainline flights/day. It didn't hurt that after deregulation EA was one of the carriers that dreamed of being what was then called a national carrier so jumped on lots of long-haul routes while abandoning the small central east cities, leaving only PI and DL to serve them. People in those markets loved being able to skip the connection in ATL by connecting in CLT instead.

Jim

Yep! Expressing the airline all starting because of deregulation and loose scope language by the unions

 

[BoeingBoy]

Yep! Expressing the airline all starting because of deregulation and loose scope language by the unions

US had Express (although it wasn't called that at the time) before deregulation became effective. Remember Alleghenny Commuter? The RJ phenonum started in the very late 80's and flourished in the 90's. And nobody has found a way to put that genie back in the bottle since.

Remember the F28's? PI didn't need RJ's since that role was filled by mainline employees working a mainline "RJ". PI did buy Henson for routes that the F28 wasn't suitable for.

Jim

 

[flybynite]

US had Express (although it wasn't called that at the time) before deregulation became effective. Remember Alleghenny Commuter? The RJ phenonum started in the very late 80's and flourished in the 90's. And nobody has found a way to put that genie back in the bottle since.

Remember the F28's? PI didn't need RJ's since that role was filled by mainline employees working a mainline "RJ". PI did buy Henson for routes that the F28 wasn't suitable for.

Jim

I remember CCair too.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Yes, or Sunbird as it was named at the time, flying Beech 99's and later Jetstreams.

Jim

 

[john john]

You may be talking about the early 70's but you're the only one. I have been talking about the 80's when PI had the 727-200's and flew them and/or the 737's into many of the smaller stations in NC, SC, WV that are now strictly Express if they have service at all. That wasn't happening because of regulation, which ended in 1979, but because those markets were nurtured and grown by PI and supported 4-5-6 mainline flights/day. It didn't hurt that after deregulation EA was one of the carriers that dreamed of being what was then called a national carrier so jumped on lots of long-haul routes while abandoning the small central east cities, leaving only PI and DL to serve them. People in those markets loved being able to skip the connection in ATL by connecting in CLT instead.

Jim

It happen because US/PI/PSA/Empire had the planes and needed to put them some were as time move on lease give backs, mergers, scope demise, bankrupisty and regulation took it course the end result is 2/3 of the airline is expressed and outsourced whipsawing the unions and countless management gone with golden parachutes ..70’s 80’s 90’s 2000's
It happen because of deregulation

 

[BoeingBoy]

I'm starting to think you don't know anything about it - first saying regulation and now deregulation. I'm done beating this horse to death...think whatever you want.

Jim

 

[john john]

I'm starting to think you don't know anything about it -

Ever wonder why west Virginia voted democrat? George bush was a oil man not interested in coal.

A's for the inefficiencies of the 50 seaters....Kirby said that they are easier to adjust pricing with because the markets are smaller and there is less competition. Us airways is a regional airline with some select routes that aren't. I would love to see 737's flying into koaj or kfay or kewn. But the cities cannot support them.

Yet I remember flying 727's into 2 of the 3. Wonder where all the people went?

Jim

What exactly is “IT”
Deregulation change the industry forever I do know that

727 and 737 flying in to EWN FAY OAJ
All I was trying to say is regulation enforce this and allow the airlines that did it to make money... Now not so much
You seam to disagree with deregulation allowing small stations to be serve with express only or no service at all

 

[john john]

You're the one that said flying big metal into those cities was called regulation, John John.

FAY was regularly on the 727-200 - that's 151 seats before they put FC in - and OAJ was not rare.

Jim

The 727 200 held 164 pax


164 shut the door
I did "IT" many of times