USAirways/America West Merger Talks -WSJ

[Fly]

Did you see this? :unsure:


Which airline will not survive?
America West
419 votes (1%)
American Airlines
470 votes (2%)
Continental Airlines
416 votes (1%)
Delta Air Lines
3647 votes (13%)
Northwest Airlines
657 votes (2%)
United Airlines
2289 votes (8%)
US Airways
12343 votes (44%)
More than one of the above
5662 votes (20%)
None of the above
658 votes (2%)
I don't know
1713 votes (6%)

28274 people have voted so far

 

[tadjr]

Did you see this? :unsure:

[post="263375"][/post]​

Scientific study by who?
Heck, given the number of people we've pissed off the past couple of months, I'm surprised we're only at 44%! B)

 

[etops1]

The following is a HP News Flash, which is distributed to all of HP's employees:

This evening, the Wall Street Journal published a story about a potential America West/US Airways merger. As a publicly traded company, our response to any media inquiries like this is that we, as a general policy, do not comment on rumors and speculation.

What we can say is that the entire America West team has worked very hard during the last several years to position our company for future success and growth. Each of our 13,500 employees should take great pride in how far you have brought this airline. As you know, and as we communicated during the potential acquisition of ATA airlines last year, we will only embark upon a strategy that benefits our company, our employees, our shareholders and our passengers.

That said the best course of action for America West at this time is to continue to run a great airline and take care of our customers. Whether consolidation is a fix that starts to occur very quickly or transpires over the next several years, we have to make sure America West is as strong as it can be should any opportunities arise. Please do your best not to worry about the rumors and continue doing the great job you are for America West.

[post="263371"][/post]​

i already posted that.

 

[aafsc]

Somebody get the USA320Cap here immediately. I know there is a UCT, TCU, ICU or something along those lines here............

[post="263098"][/post]​

I'll bet he is disappointed because America West has no 777s, or 747-400s.

 

[OldGuyinPA]

According to USA320Pious...

one potential weapon management has to do that is the EMB-170/190.


You know....we're lucky if we can get the darn thing started in the morning.

Take about 45 minutes and 3-4 reboots of the computer. What a weapon.................

 

[aafsc]

Sorry, most of US' employees were all ready through two mergers, PSA and Piedmont, and dovetailed was used in both.

Unlike your carrier and your union, (TWU), a union is about fairness, not about making one group suffer as the TWU did with the former TWA employees.

[post="263169"][/post]​

The AA/TWU and TWA/IAM went to binding arbitration over seniority even though the TWA/IAM surrendered their labor protective provisions. The arbitrator basically fenced the TWA bases (MCI STL giving TW people 100% TW seniority) from the AA bases. If the TWAers were given full seniority system wide it would have devistated the nAAtive workforce. No TWAers would have been laid off; they all would have been nAAtive. So check your facts.

 

[LGA Fleet Service]

Ah.  And you surmised all of this from a couple of news articles.  Your powers of discernment are as good if not better than our other resident expert.  Of course I'm sure that like a certain pilot here, you have daily conversations with Dr. Bonehead

Just remember folks you read it here first.

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[songbirdstew]

US Airways executives "are more than happy to go back to playing golf as opposed to running an airline that is extremely difficult," Bronner said, calling America West managers "extremely capable people ... that are well-respected in the industry."

Noone has really addressed this issue but A320----after everything they took from us....blaming the F/A group and the rampers for the Christmas meltdown...Teddy asking for an apology, etc. doesn't this tick anybody off ? I am fuming !!! "They are more than happy going back to playing golf"?

Do none of these execs think before they open their mouths....?

And the BOD is where when they make these comments ?

Whether Bronner is talking about Lakefield or not.....start firing these so called managers that prefer to play golf. Do that before the company comes back and cries high fuel costs and ask me for yet more money----of which I have none.....please everybody vote NO next time....I am going to start having my cats food for dinner due to my financial situation.

Stewing Songbird Stew

 

[Seatacus]

Where I'm having trouble is seeing the benefit to AWA in all this. After working hard to get their house in order, what is the benefit of merging with one of, if not the, highest cost carriers in the country? A bigger presence on the East coast perhaps, but at what cost to their chances to grow & prosper?

Just food for thought......

Jim

[post="263353"][/post]​

Could be this whole merger thing is a bluff to get some other suiter off their duff and show some interest.

 

[Rico]

Jim brings forth a valid question, Why...?

And I would like to answer it.

IMO America West is looking to a future dominated by a handful of airlines, and in that future size does matter. And if they want to compete as a "LCC with connections", they must provide just that.

You will either be a "player", or be left behind as either SWA or resurgent Legacies crush you.

The link-up between US and HP would produce a strong carrier in the sun belt of the SW and SE United States (each of which is a growth area of the nation), with a a large expansion potential into the Midwest, and internationally.

Linking up with US provides AW access and entrance into the Star Alliance as well.

I know that you see high costs and huge debt still Jim, but think exactly how much it would cost someone to be able to get into the markets U is in, to finance that kind of growth, and secure that kind of access to the east coast.

With the age of the U pilot group, with the buyouts and outsourcing of the other U work groups and new work rules, with the ability of U to kepp or dispose of the fleet they have... And the fact that our legacy competition is far too broke to do anything about this...There is no better time to make this move for AWA.

Like I said, Parker is a CEO that can pull this sort of move off.

A rapid code share setup, while the remainder of the process slowly takes place, and a successful merger is more likely that you think...

 

[luvn737s]

I think HP should go around threatening to buy up airlines to run the price up. WN feels the need to nip that in the bud and overpays to keep U out of HP's hands. HP moves on to the next airline and so on while WN bleeds precious cash. Brilliant!

Lather, rinse, repeat.

P.S. It worked for Lorenzo with National...

 

[funguy2]

For the US Airways – America West deal to proceed, I believe GE, RSA, or another party will need to provide the financing. In addition, I believe, US Airways' paint scheme, word mark, and headquarters would survive, and the new CEO will be either Doug Parker or Bruce Ashby.

Interesting opinion from a guy who says he believes the public information as well as statements from Company leadership, and posted a link to an article which states:

US Airways executives "are more than happy to go back to playing golf as opposed to running an airline that is extremely difficult," Bronner said, calling America West managers "extremely capable people ... that are well-respected in the industry."

Again, it sounds like HP is in the drivers seat here, and that HP and its management would be the surviving entity. After all, US execs would rather play golf.

As for the brand, reports have indicated that the "brand" is likely to be US Airways... Its a stronger name in that its more unique and less regional sounding (how many airlines have "West" in them, and even news reports often erroneously call the company "AmericaN West"). As for livery, who knows. But the corporate structure and the groups in control of the transaction currently reside in PHX, by the sounds of it.

 

[wnbubbleboy]

I think HP should go around threatening to buy up airlines to run the price up. WN feels the need to nip that in the bud and overpays to keep U out of HP's hands. HP moves on to the next airline and so on while WN bleeds precious cash. Brilliant!

Lather, rinse, repeat.

P.S. It worked for Lorenzo with National...

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If you are referring to ATA deal word has it here we're going to make 100 million this year because of our code sharing agreement.

If that's the case we need to hire the HP group as consultants.

 

[Bear96]

(how many airlines have "West" in them, ... )

[post="263419"][/post]​

Mmmm ... SouthWEST?

Never heard of them.

Of course, guess the southwest in "Southwest" means southwest PA these days...



NorthWEST?

I guess they're only known as merely a "regional" carrier. If you consider the Pacific merely a "region"!

😀

(Just messin' with you funguy!)

 

[Walmartgreeter]

Mmmm ... SouthWEST?

Never heard of them.

Of course, guess the southwest in "Southwest" means southwest PA these days...
NorthWEST?

I guess they're only known as merely a "regional" carrier. If you consider the Pacific merely a "region"!

😀

(Just messin' with you funguy!)

[post="263437"][/post]​

Hey, how about Delta, as in the actual river delta...talk about regional ! 🙂