USAirways Cargo

[ussnark]

I know a dead body is still a dead body, but it wasn't like the guy missed his funeral, he was going to be hacked up for experiments or training or something.

A casket hardly "looks like" a shipment of fish. Just sayin'

 

[ussnark]

Cargo and mail were contracted out back in 96. Those that were in power at that time are responsible for this, and the many other fiascos that the different contract companies have burdened US with over these years. US is punished for these misdoings while the contractors continue with business as usual. That is where Tempe should step in and straighten things out by bringing our own workforce back to handle our cargo and mail. Until then we can expect the same stupid mistakes over and over again. Which is what Tempe seems to be famous for.

Does anyone know if anything has happened to the contractor in PHL, or the worker(s) that mixed up the shipment?

Rogue

Sharky is no idiot, here.

Any competent management group would have seen the fallacy of outsourcing and corrected. But, then, you seem to want to make excuses for the "koolaide group".

The executive group is incompetent, in almost every way. All it would take is a labor assertion of their own contract to highlight that. Were the pilots to actually try to enforce any of their contractual provisions that management, historically ignores, it could become a bloodbath. Unfortunately, the pilots have way too many weak dudes, so far, that cannot think themselves out of a wet paper bag. <sigh>

 

[SolidCactus]

And I'm sure this is the reason that FedEx and UPS do not outsource as well. You get what you pay for, both from a customer perspective, and a company perspective.

 

[wings396]

Actually, it is Tempe.

They are the ones who, not respecting "experience", fired all those who knew better and hired, in some cases, felons off the street in order to "save" a couple of nickels, which is costing more than a few bucks.

Sorry, the blame rests with the "leader" who seems to have problems interpreting data from the rather dull pencil points who can really whip a spreadsheet into pretty colors. That is where the blame should reside, your efforts notwithstanding.

The Cargo jobs were contracted out long before most on this board even knew where Tempe was. I want to say that Cargo along with the Express operation went to a vendor sometime around 1992. This was done by the imfamous CCY gang, and was the beginning of the end with many lost jobs to follow in the later years.

 

[ussnark]

The Cargo jobs were contracted out long before most on this board even knew where Tempe was. I want to say that Cargo along with the Express operation went to a vendor sometime around 1992. This was done by the imfamous CCY gang, and was the beginning of the end with many lost jobs to follow in the later years.

Tempe always had the option to opt out. They bought into the morass and deserve all the blame. Why would you think otherwise?

 

[Ramp Rogue]

CLT and PHL should not be contracted out. They handle way too much cargo and mail. I doubt if the contractors get the same customer satisfaction that we would get if we handled our own operations in those cities. Does anyone know what we pay the contractors per pound in CLT and PHL?

Rogue

 

[700UW]

I know one thing when US handled their own cargo you could not move in the air freight building in CLT it was packed, once it was outsourced I bet they lost at least 50% of not more of the business.

 

[Ramp Rogue]

I know one thing when US handled their own cargo you could not move in the air freight building in CLT it was packed, once it was outsourced I bet they lost at least 50% of not more of the business.

That is the exact point I was trying to make. So many customers stopped doing business with US for the simple fact that we contracted everything out. If we were to get rid of the contract companies and replace them with our own workforce once again, we would surely get those customers back. Do you understand that Tempe?

Contractors = less customers, less freight, mistakes.
US Workforce = Customers returning, more freight, Pride in our work, morale boost, money kept in house.

Rogue

 

[LGA777]

Here is a little side note to this story I read on another site.

And here's the ultimate irony: Jon Kenoyer, the man whose body ended up at the pet store, was a mailman. He hated to fly but as a practical joker, he loved a good laugh. His wife Mary says that's probably what he's having a laugh right about now.

Kenoyer also said she hopes this incident doesn't discourage others from donating their bodies to science.


Regards

LGA777

 

[LD3]

And I'm sure this is the reason that FedEx and UPS do not outsource as well. You get what you pay for, both from a customer perspective, and a company perspective.

Well actually FedEx Ground is contracted out...But I agree, the freight house at the hubs should be company staffed...

 

[700UW]

FedEx Ground is owned by FedEx:

Term: "FedEx Ground Facts"
FedEx Ground
FedEx Ground specializes in cost-effective, small-package shipping, offering dependable business-to-business delivery or convenient residential service through FedEx Home Delivery and FedEx SmartPost. History Founded in 1985 as RPS; rebranded as FedEx Ground in 2000. Headquarters Pittsburgh, Pa. Principal Officer David F. Rebholz, President and CEO FY08 Revenue $6.8 billion (includes FedEx SmartPost) Workforce More than 73,000 employees and independent contractors Average ...

 

[Dignity]

Fedex 2 day is a part of their express division which is essentially another company..and to my understanding Fedex ground is only Fedex by name most of those drivers are independent contractors...using the logos and colors but maintain their own trucks, uniforms, gas..and so on..they have routes that are contracted(sometimes multiple) and its operated like managing their own business.

 

[Ramp Rogue]

Has anyone in PHX or LAS ever questioned the powers that be in Tempe, why mail & cargo in CLT & PHL are still contracted out? Whether you know and or understand it, the more work that we do ourselves the less people that are furloughed. It's time to wake up people, especially those in LAS.

Rogue

 

[Dog Wonder]

Cargo will only come back to Fleet Service in exchange for concessions.

 

[whatkindoffreshhell]

The problem with USair cargo is not the people in the freight house.

You have ineffective people selling/servicing the product and no yield management professionals.