video of A-319 & DC-9 in MSP

[flyJOE]

Have you seen this video yet of the A-319 and DC-9 collision on the ramp? It's something to see.


http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944

 

[jenny@nw]

Have you seen this video yet of the A-319 and DC-9 collision on the ramp? It's something to see.
http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944

All I can say is BRAVO to the ground crew and to the crew on board for their actions!

 

[robbedagain]

its amazing how there was no fire or explosion!

KUDOS to the crews and all the ground employees for quick evacuations of both flts!

what are/were the results does anyone know?

 

[PurduePete]

its amazing how there was no fire or explosion!

KUDOS to the crews and all the ground employees for quick evacuations of both flts!

what are/were the results does anyone know?

Here is a news article written shortly after the incident...

http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_130211546.html

As for the aircraft...an Airbus AOG team was able to salvage the A319 after major repairs to the aft spar on the right wing and completely replacing the empennage (the section of the fuselage just behind the aft pressure bulkhead). The DC-9 was unrepairable and eventually was scrapped.

 

[TheRealSaabmeister]

God, I hate KSTP news. Who the hell declared Bob McNaney an "Aviation Expert"? He constantly gets facts wrong, and ALWAYS paints the strikers in a negative light.

And why is this video such big news? I thought it was funny that for the five o'clock news for some reason they moved McNaney out to the MSP terminal, like it was breaking news or something

As for the aircraft...an Airbus AOG team was able to salvage the A319 after major repairs to the aft spar on the right wing and completely replacing the empennage (the section of the fuselage just behind the aft pressure bulkhead). The DC-9 was unrepairable and eventually was scrapped.

From what I've heard, the DC-9 was repairable, just not economically feasible.

Also from what I've heard, the A-319's repairs weren't completely finished by the Airbus AOG team, because they woudn't cross the picket line.

 

[robbedagain]

thanks for the info and article related Pete. It sure is interesting.
what could cause the hydralics to fail on the ground or in the air?

 

[Spock]

thanks for the info and article related Pete. It sure is interesting.
what could cause the hydralics to fail on the ground or in the air?

Lost Right Hyd Qty. See link __ http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=2...01965&key=2
The part in question should have been a time change item, but several long years ago they talked the FAA into "change on condition". Most likely an o-ring. As to why the left system didn't work to steer and brake, my guess is a pilot, creature of habit, shut down the left engine during taxi in because this creates a quite environment on the left side of the aircraft prior to arriving at the jetway - thus the customers deplaning are not bothered by the engine noise.
But is this case, he just killed his only remaining hyd pump, the left brake accumulator pressure went south during some applications during taxi.

 

[Kev3188]

Lost Right Hyd Qty. See link __ http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=2...01965&key=2
............
But is this case, he just killed his only remaining hyd pump, the left brake accumulator pressure went south during some applications during taxi.

Thanks for the link. I'd been wondering about that last sentence as well; even those of us on the ramp know that w/o hydraulics you have "3 pushes on the pedal" max. If he knew they were out, why not just stay out on the taxiway and get towed in?

 

[MCI transplant]

<_< ---- Hydraulic failure? An tribute to "SCAB" maintenance???? When will they learn? Next time it could cost someone their life's, and one helluva Law suit for Northworst!!!! :down:

 

[jimntx]

Kudos to the crews and the rampers for getting everyone evacuated so quickly and safely. I played that tape twice, and I still don't believe that there was no fire or explosion!

 

[jenny@nw]

Kudos to the crews and the rampers for getting everyone evacuated so quickly and safely. I played that tape twice, and I still don't believe that there was no fire or explosion!

What I remember, it's the fumes that catch fire not the liquid itself. I'm surprised we didn't have a dead pilot in the cockpit.

 

[robbedagain]

thanks for the link. it seems that he lost hydralics on the right side during climb out out of CMH. But wouldnt that be a smart decision to keep the other engine running and ask the ops to have someone come out and tow it to gate via tractor and towbar?

 

[Stratocruiser]

<_< ---- Hydraulic failure? An tribute to "SCAB" maintenance???? When will they learn? Next time it could cost someone their life's, and one helluva Law suit for Northworst!!!! :down:

I hate to burst your bubble, but this happened in May 2005 when AMFA Mechanics were still around.

 

[Spock]

I hate to burst your bubble, but this happened in May 2005 when AMFA Mechanics were still around.

Hey Stratocruiser, bust his bubble. It just goes to show you how many people don't really "read" all information posted on this board. May 2005, and the video reporter made that clear too.

thanks for the link. it seems that he lost hydralics on the right side during climb out out of CMH. But wouldnt that be a smart decision to keep the other engine running and ask the ops to have someone come out and tow it to gate via tractor and towbar?

Your right, that was the initial plan. Then the crew radioed in to cancel the tow - they could make it in. The rest is history. I know the mechs that were invilved.

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

God, I hate KSTP news. Who the hell declared Bob McNaney an "Aviation Expert"? He constantly gets facts wrong, and ALWAYS paints the strikers in a negative light.

And why is this video such big news? I thought it was funny that for the five o'clock news for some reason they moved McNaney out to the MSP terminal, like it was breaking news or something

About nine years ago, I was traveling to the Twin Cities on a regular basis and, when watching local TV news (that bastsion of journalism) there, noticed that KSTP seemed to go out of its way to make NW look bad.

It seems that at most - possibly all - airline hubs, at least one TV station likes to beat up the hometown airline. One station in CLT liked to show a picture of a "USAir" DC-9-30 above the anchormodel's anchorperson's shoulder whenever beating up on US Airways. This kept going for years afer the new colors and name change.

I was having problems with the sound on the video clip and thought the mishap had just happened, which would have explained the reporter's live report from the airport. It wasn't until reading a later post that I realized it happened last year. The need for a live feed from that airport eludes me.


Update: just saw the clip again, with sound. What a moron that reporter is! (but he does have nice hair).
"miracle the two planes didn't explode?"
A fire, maybe a serious one, was possible. But an explosion?


"federal authorities didn't want us to show the tape"

Journalism 101: Back up that statement with something.
If true, that could have been a wothwhile story by itself.
Was the tape Federal Govermment classified information?

Of course, since when was journalistic acumen a requirement to work in TV news?