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[lasttoboard]

Does anyone feel that NRSA Fares will be revisited soon? As I pay my charges it would appear as if our rates are way higher than the industry and much higher than even the folks dealing with chapter 11. Wishfull thinking perhaps!

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Does anyone feel that NRSA Fares will be revisited soon? As I pay my charges it would appear as if our rates are way higher than the industry and much higher than even the folks dealing with chapter 11. Wishfull thinking perhaps!

Look for this to be one of the first "bones" UAL throws back to its employees if things improve at UAL too quickly.

Ahhhhhhh Noooooo, you can't have anymore money but here, we've reduced/eliminated NRSA charges.........


......everybody happy now??? <_< <_< <_<

 

[lasttoboard]

Look for this to be one of the first "bones" UAL throws back to its employees if things improve at UAL too quickly.

Ahhhhhhh Noooooo, you can't have anymore money but here, we've reduced/eliminated NRSA charges.........
......everybody happy now??? <_< <_< <_<

Third Seat, you are probably spot on with your reply. I hope UA is indeed succesful in 06 and beyond. That would be a dilema most airlines rarly deal with in this brutal marketplace.
Giving back a marginal amount in the area of nrsa charges, after all the givebacks, would be a breath of fresh air at our household. I certinally would not take it as a personnal affront.

 

[gatemech]

I don't mind paying the security charges. They should drop all the other charges. Meals are already on board for first class. No meals in coach. So why charge for something that would be empty is an SA wasn't sitting there?

Some of the companion fares are pretty high too. Same as above. Seat would be empty if an SA or companion wasn't sitting there. I have compared some companion fares to SWA. Sometimes it is cheaper to buy a ticket.

I know I gave & lost a lot during the BK along with the rest of the UAL employees. Cutting those fares would be a nice bone to throw our way.

Just my opinion. You know what they say about opinions.


gatemech

 

[boxer]

SA flying is a moot point imo. Flights have been full going or the risk is too great on not being able to return on time. My wife and I bought tickets the last two times we flew. 20% discount off of lowest published fare is not too much greater than current service charges.

 

[lasttoboard]

SA flying is a moot point imo. Flights have been full going or the risk is too great on not being able to return on time. My wife and I bought tickets the last two times we flew. 20% discount off of lowest published fare is not too much greater than current service charges.

It's a tad more if you plan trips to distant parts of UA's globe. Look up the fares to PEK, SGN, SIN, or HKG. It will take your breathe away if you travel 20% off those lowest published fares! Then factor in downline costs if you haven't the luxury of living close to a hub. Oh buddy, it's not cheap anymore....

SA flying is a moot point imo. Flights have been full going or the risk is too great on not being able to return on time. My wife and I bought tickets the last two times we flew. 20% discount off of lowest published fare is not too much greater than current service charges.

It's a tad more if you plan trips to distant parts of UA's globe. Look up the fares to PEK, SGN, SIN, or HKG. It will take your breathe away if you travel 20% off those lowest published fares! Then factor in downline costs if you haven't the luxury of living close to a hub. Oh buddy, it's not cheap anymore....

 

[The Gopher]

Some of the companion fares are pretty high too. Same as above. Seat would be empty if an SA or companion wasn't sitting there. I have compared some companion fares to SWA. Sometimes it is cheaper to buy a ticket.

Some companion fares have dropped way down beginning in Jan 06. I have a friend in "flyover" country and last year it was about $140 R/T on a companion. Now it's about $68. Less than half!

As far as cost savings, wasn't it determined at one point that having a whole team to work on service charges was more expensive than the actual incremental revenue brought in? Just to set and audit employee travel cost more than the program brought in. I'd be in favor of a one-time yearly charge (like US Air had/has). If you don't travel, you can opt-out and just pay normal service charges. If you do travel, then you pay 0.1% of your salary per eligible per year ($50,000 salary x 0.1% = $50 per person / per year) plus security fees.

Based on recent DIR, don't expect to see those performance passes back for a long time.

 

[lasttoboard]

As far as cost savings, wasn't it determined at one point that having a whole team to work on service charges was more expensive than the actual incremental revenue brought in? Just to set and audit employee travel cost more than the program brought in. I'd be in favor of a one-time yearly charge (like US Air had/has). If you don't travel, you can opt-out and just pay normal service charges. If you do travel, then you pay 0.1% of your salary per eligible per year ($50,000 salary x 0.1% = $50 per person / per year) plus security fees.

I like the way you think! Any thoughts on a retiree's fare structure since no one is making 50k with that gig?

 

[The Gopher]

I like the way you think! Any thoughts on a retiree's fare structure since no one is making 50k with that gig?

How about "All BP10, all the time!" Nah, for retirees, just use an average (total retiree charges / number of retiree segments). I'm not sure if retirees as a group fly more or less than active employees (more due to more time? Less since they don't commute? I don't know) Also make it one-time per year.

For employees, make it part of annual enrollment, and have the per person charges payroll deducted over the entire year. So a family of 5 = $250 per year, or $10.42 per paycheck. Reasonable if you ask me.

 

[A737lvr]

Lots of people always ask me "don't you fly for free" ...the public for the most part thinks airline employees fly for free and that is the way it should be...FREE. It is bad enough to try to actually fly standby on your vacation. Continental lets you fly domestically for free after ten years of service. And adds first class and the rest of the world after more years of service. Free flying would be a great place to start building moral. Many people never fly any way. So make it free. Send a good message to all and keep the employees happy!!!

 

[WorldTraveler]

According to my sources, Delta employees have had no service charge passes for several years throughout the US for first or coach. Internationally, they pay only for taxes. DL employees will have to pay the one time per year charge similar to US' beginning this year.

From the flights I've been on, I could hardly imagine too many employees are getting on as full as the flights have been - on just about every airline.

 

[Deleted by Moderator]

United had no service charges at all (domestic or international) but once bk hit, then service charges became a reality.

How do the other airlines decide who gets on? At United it is seniority but I've heard that some airlines are first come, first serve. I think seniority is a much better way than everyone standing around the gate for four hours to be the first inline. What a giant waste of time for the employees. I'd much rather walk up a half hour before departure and let my seniority determine my chances of boarding.

 

[lasttoboard]

United had no service charges at all (domestic or international) but once bk hit, then service charges became a reality.

How do the other airlines decide who gets on? At United it is seniority but I've heard that some airlines are first come, first serve. I think seniority is a much better way than everyone standing around the gate for four hours to be the first inline. What a giant waste of time for the employees. I'd much rather walk up a half hour before departure and let my seniority determine my chances of boarding.

I can't believe that you missed the heated debate on the US Board about the new rules for boarding since the merge with HP?

All retired folks board only after active personel. They must to protect the commuters and the newbies! There would no doubt be a few folks at UA with an opinion on that change for sure....

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

Just as a "FWI" reference,
AA goes by "first come, first served", and that INCLUDES retirees (they do NOT make a distinction between active/retiree)

We also fly free (in coach) domestically.

they "open up" the "list" EXACTLY 4 hours before departure.
You can "list" at the counter at the airport, at a CTO(if there are any left), or , best of all you can "list" at home, on your PC

NH/BB's

 

[UAL_TECH]

Just as a "FWI" reference,
AA goes by "first come, first served", and that INCLUDES retirees (they do NOT make a distinction between active/retiree)

We also fly free (in coach) domestically.

they "open up" the "list" EXACTLY 4 hours before departure.
You can "list" at the counter at the airport, at a CTO(if there are any left), or , best of all you can "list" at home, on your PC

NH/BB's

Great, B' Scale and then this.
Thanks 'AA'!!!

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