robbedagain
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did dl use the old hangar that us had in tpa or did they have their own? what are dl maintaince bases
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wrong... dead wrong.
US has the highest percentage of outsourcing and that fact is backed up by US DOT data....
but you choose to redefine outsourcing to yield a response that gives you the answer you want.
No one agrees.
AA has about 25% outsourcing in the current year which is the lowest among US carriers.
DL's outsourcing is about 35% but if you factor in the value of the insourcing which DL does, the net outsourcing for DL is about 15%. NO other carrier reports a high enough percentage of insourcing to significantly change their outsourcing percentage.
US' outsourcing is about 50%, more than UA and right up there with WN.
DL operates the largest airline MRO in the western hemisphere which adds thousands of jobs for DL mechanics.
No union carrier, esp. US, does that.
How many times do you need to be told, UA puts out an RFP and companies bid on it, the IAM has no say in who UA picks as the vendor, are you that stupid that after many times you have been told this, you keep lying about it and posting misinformation?
See the cap is 50% billable hours for heavy mtc checks, power by the hour and such are in the data, which is skewed.
Dont see US planes in China being overhauled, can you say the same about DL?
Who is doing the mods on the 717s?
Not deltoid.
And Delta's MRO is now being staffed by Delta Global Service, DL outsources more heavy checks than they do in-house.
Robbed,
Delta had a hangar in TPA way before US did, US built their own hangar and shut it down during bankruptcy #1, DL use to do MD80 and 727 C-checks in TPA and they shut it down.
Ill ask the ZW employees when I fly from MHT tomorrow. Four years ago it was mainline UA 319/733 now it's all express, bet you are happy.
Josh
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robbedagain
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Yep you are so brillant that the ZW employees who arent part of UA, will know how UA finance and operations how they put out an RFP and choose a vendor.
You are making yourself out to be a bigger joke than anyone ever thought.
Check this out Robbed
http://www.aviationpros.com/article/10388655/whats-this-a-check-c-check-stuff
robbedagain
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thank you 700 very very interesting how many people for ex would it take for an A-319 A-320 A321 compared to 330s and 76s
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700,
as much as you would like to redefine outsourcing to make US look good, the simple fact is that US outsources 57.8% ​of its maintenance budget as defined by dollars. The DOT collects the data and US data can very clearly be seen here
​http://web.mit.edu/a...nd Analysis.htm
US' outsourcing % is for all practical purposes unchanged from WN who is at 59% even though WN built its business model on outsourced maintenance.
The reason why you don't see US airplanes in Asia is because they don't fly there! and it makes no sense to send aircraft over there.
There are plenty of US aircraft that make the trip "south of the border" for maintenance; your selective focus on Asia at the expense of Latin America shows how badly you try to protect US' and its union's image even when it is well known what US really does - and that its unions have been completely ineffective in stemming the flow of outsourcing.
You do realize that US' rate of outsourcing was 20% less not more than a decade ago?
And how much money did US gain by insourcing?
While you work on that answer, perhaps you can explain why US' total number of employees in maintenance has been shrinking since 2007.
Just how has US' maintenance unions managed to allow so many jobs to be lost?
as much as you would like to redefine outsourcing to make US look good, the simple fact is that US outsources 57.8% ​of its maintenance budget as defined by dollars. The DOT collects the data and US data can very clearly be seen here
​http://web.mit.edu/a...nd Analysis.htm
US' outsourcing % is for all practical purposes unchanged from WN who is at 59% even though WN built its business model on outsourced maintenance.
The reason why you don't see US airplanes in Asia is because they don't fly there! and it makes no sense to send aircraft over there.
There are plenty of US aircraft that make the trip "south of the border" for maintenance; your selective focus on Asia at the expense of Latin America shows how badly you try to protect US' and its union's image even when it is well known what US really does - and that its unions have been completely ineffective in stemming the flow of outsourcing.
You do realize that US' rate of outsourcing was 20% less not more than a decade ago?
And how much money did US gain by insourcing?
While you work on that answer, perhaps you can explain why US' total number of employees in maintenance has been shrinking since 2007.
Just how has US' maintenance unions managed to allow so many jobs to be lost?
WT,
WRONG!
Before the 2008 US had unlimited outsourcing on heavy checks, because of the CBA that was abrogated, in the 2008 Transition Agreement the IAM negotiated protections where 50% of billable hours must be done in-house, the numbers you site are skewed as US doesnt and never painted planes, nor did they overhaul the any other engine except the JT8s, which are gone from US's fleet.
Keep trying, DL outsources more heavy checks than US and DL ferries planes to even get exterminated.
WRONG!
Before the 2008 US had unlimited outsourcing on heavy checks, because of the CBA that was abrogated, in the 2008 Transition Agreement the IAM negotiated protections where 50% of billable hours must be done in-house, the numbers you site are skewed as US doesnt and never painted planes, nor did they overhaul the any other engine except the JT8s, which are gone from US's fleet.
Keep trying, DL outsources more heavy checks than US and DL ferries planes to even get exterminated.
So if DL serves Asia, then why are they ferrying an outsourced A332 from SIN-ATL with four crew members, thats real efficient.
NOT!
N851NW is done with the flat-bed refurbishment, and is being ferried nonstop from SIN to ATL today (Sunday 26 May). It is DL9971.
NOT!
N851NW is done with the flat-bed refurbishment, and is being ferried nonstop from SIN to ATL today (Sunday 26 May). It is DL9971.
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