Polygamy is next... Seriously....

SparrowHawk said:
I was waiting for this after the gay marriage debate. Personally I don't get polygamy as I can't even seem to keep one wife for more then 8 years.
 
Once again this is simple for me. The rights of the Individual supersede the rights of the government. As long as we have a consenting adults type situation.
If you came in the room looking like that goofball in your avatar I'd understand the reason your husbands run away from you.
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
You keep talking about natural law.... what is natural about a couple of gays entering a marriage contract? 
 
What is natural about a couple of homosexuals raising children as a couple?
 
Nothing, that's what.
 
A man and a woman making a baby and raising it with their values is NATURAL LAW, a couple of gays playing house is about as UNNATURAL as it gets, in fact it is an abomination.
 
Gays seek to use the liberal movement to impose law on American citizens that they would never willingly accept. They seek to force a cultural change on the American people. 
 
I apologize beforehand, I can only meet this rant with a few various considerations.
 
What's natural about arguing with people back and forth using a keyboard and an electric glowing screen?  What's natural about sitting in a chair in an aluminum tube five miles in the sky going 500 mph for three hours?  Really what's natural about any aspect of living in the 21st century?  Vaccines?  Aspartame?
 
As someone mentioned before, it was once considered UNNATURAL to have a mixed-race marriage because, after all, god had split the many nations of the earth and gave them different colors and tongues for a reason, and therefore miscegenation = abomination.  It was once considered NATURAL to own other human beings as property, and this was long defended from the pulpit and finally decided in a massive war (spoiler: slavery lost).
 
Actually you have it backwards; when it comes to gay marriage the "gay agenda" people are fighting the imposition of laws that they feel unfairly restrict marriage to a certain group of people and implicitly deny it to another.
 
Cultural change is a constant and inevitable phenomenon.  Especially in a media-driven capitalist democracy the goal is to get as many people as possible to think in a certain way so that you can to some degree steer their thoughts and actions towards your agenda, whatever that may be, and there is no side active in any issue that doesn't have an agenda.  Of course, whether you're a SuperPAC or advertising firm it's bad marketing to admit this, but it is how the system works.  So a lot of cultural change is manipulable to a certain degree. 
 
On the other hand, a lot of social change is not; changes in technology, world events, geography, economics etc can impact social schema with effects lasting for generations.  The industrial revolution is one very notable example, and the Second World War is another.  The technological revolution is yet another and might even be the most profound.  Each of these have contributed over several decades to the mass migration of families into urban and suburban areas, and away from the agrarian and rural/small town lifestyle that fostered conservative sensibilities.  People living in high density and amongst high diversity working industrial, professional, or creative jobs tend to be more socially liberal. Different social conditions mean they quite literally live in a different reality and this gives them a different set of values, one in which fear of witches and gays and things like moral retribution are no longer of any use.
 
Of course, I do realize when people say things that make you angry - or more likely that you don't understand - it's easier just to call them retards or terrorists.  If that's your style you should probably keep rolling with it, especially if it brings you catharsis and emotional validation.
 
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La Li Lu Le Lo said:
You keep talking about natural law.... what is natural about a couple of gays entering a marriage contract? 
 
What is natural about a couple of homosexuals raising children as a couple?
 
Nothing, that's what.
 
A man and a woman making a baby and raising it with their values is NATURAL LAW, a couple of gays playing house is about as UNNATURAL as it gets, in fact it is an abomination.
 
Gays seek to use the liberal movement to impose law on American citizens that they would never willingly accept. They seek to force a cultural change on the American people. 
 
Liberals are nothing but terrorists. You can see the proof in all these corporations backing the gay agenda. Corporations are basically paying the libtard terrorist STFU money because they don't want to be the next Chic-fil-A. Libtards will tell you they are all for free speech until you say something that goes against their agenda, then they Phil Robertson your ass. How about that ridiculous media circus with Michael Sam. 
 
I would like to read the news without reading about some homosexual coming out. If being in a gay relationship is a private thing that does not effect anyone else then why the hell am I reading about it every 2 weeks?
 
If you want to buy into all this liberal, politically correct B.S. that is on you. Don't ask me to accept it. I refuse.
 
A libtard is someone that supports a bunch of socialist leading a bunch of sheeple to assassinate their own countries laws, culture, and economy.
 
Have fun watching your libtard masters hand your country and tax dollars over to the illegal invaders so they can stay in power. 
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/new-york-democrats-introduce-bill-giving-illegals-immediate-state-citizenship-and-the-right-to-vote
 
Giving your rights and freedom away to back a political agenda... that is the definition of stupid.
 
When are you going to realize that you cannot change the definition or use of words just to accommodate your own ignorance and hatred?  Natural law was explained very clearly.  If you are unable to understand it's meaning then look it up for a better understanding.  It is obvious by your post that you have not the faintest clue about what Sparrow, I or anyone else is talking about.  If you did, you would understand that natural law and the law that the the US is based on does not give a flying phuck about what you believe is immoral.  Natural law simply put says that a person may lead their life as they see fit with out unwarranted intervention from government.  SO long as the persons actions do not affect others, shut the phuck up.  No one care if you think homosexuality is wrong.  I think bigotry by the KKK is wrong but they still have the right to be bigots.  
 
The rest of your post is equally ignorant.  Do some research (I know you won't) on the FRC and how they 'Phil Robertson' different things that they disagree with.  I would think you would be quite familiar with the FRC as their line of thinking is right up your alley.  
 
If you do not want to read about gays coming out and fighting for equal rights then stop fighting them at every turn.  Support equality for everyone and it will go away.  Suffrage marches stopped after the law acknowledged that women were equal.  Civil rights marches stopped after the law acknowledged equality for them as well.  Homoesexuallity will stop being in the news if you would just stop fighting it.  It has nothing to do with you so why do you care so much?
 
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La Li Lu Le Lo said:
You keep talking about natural law.... what is natural about a couple of gays entering a marriage contract? 
 
What is natural about a couple of homosexuals raising children as a couple?
 
Nothing, that's what.
 
A man and a woman making a baby and raising it with their values is NATURAL LAW, a couple of gays playing house is about as UNNATURAL as it gets, in fact it is an abomination.
 
Gays seek to use the liberal movement to impose law on American citizens that they would never willingly accept. They seek to force a cultural change on the American people. 
 
Liberals are nothing but terrorists. You can see the proof in all these corporations backing the gay agenda. Corporations are basically paying the libtard terrorist STFU money because they don't want to be the next Chic-fil-A. Libtards will tell you they are all for free speech until you say something that goes against their agenda, then they Phil Robertson your ass. How about that ridiculous media circus with Michael Sam. 
 
I would like to read the news without reading about some homosexual coming out. If being in a gay relationship is a private thing that does not effect anyone else then why the hell am I reading about it every 2 weeks?
 
If you want to buy into all this liberal, politically correct B.S. that is on you. Don't ask me to accept it. I refuse.
 
A libtard is someone that supports a bunch of socialist leading a bunch of sheeple to assassinate their own countries laws, culture, and economy.
 
Have fun watching your libtard masters hand your country and tax dollars over to the illegal invaders so they can stay in power. 
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/new-york-democrats-introduce-bill-giving-illegals-immediate-state-citizenship-and-the-right-to-vote
 
Giving your rights and freedom away to back a political agenda... that is the definition of stupid.
 
 
Well we've already determined that you are a socialist. YOU proved it when you accepted money confiscated from others to pay for your retraining. So it is you who fit your own definition of "Libtard"
 
I explained Natural Law to you briefly as the foundation of our government. So if you reject Natural Law you in turn reject the rule of law and the laws of the United States.  This would then mean that you are most likely a Socialist.
 
BTW, Libertarians are NOT Liberals, try to remember that and at least insult me correctly.
 
SparrowHawk said:
Well we've already determined that you are a socialist. YOU proved it when you accepted money confiscated from others to pay for your retraining. 
You mean when I used money confiscated from ME for MY retraining?
 
Confiscated from ME for over 21 years.
 
Yet, you want to compare me to some dumb ass that has never worked a day in her life popping out 5 kids for the tax payers to take care of.
 
That is a ridiculous argument. 
 
When I make welfare a way of life then you have a valid point. 
 
I suppose you call a drop of water hitting the ground a rainstorm. That would make just about as much sense as calling me a welfare dependent. Typical libtard tactics, invent what you want to see.
 
I sank some baskets in my life to, by your logic I am an NBA star. I wrote a short story in high school as well, by your logic that makes me a novelist. 
 
Using grant money (that I have paid into for over 20 years) for retraining to get back to work and make a decent wage is not the same thing as making welfare a way of life you f'ing douche.
 
Dog Wonder said:
Tamika had another kid? How long have you known her?
How do you know she had a kid? Were you one of the many possible donors she was calling for child support?
 
How do you know she had a kid? Were you one of the many possible donors she was calling for child support?
Last time you told us about your Tamika she had four kids. Who am I to question how you knew she had another?
 
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