RIF Notices

ok more fine planning by AA/TWU, just keep all your employees, and union brothers in the dark............all rif letters were supposed to be distributed 10/24. and the options period was supposed to start 10/25..........does ANYONE know what is going on??????
 
We have numbers here at AFW. List with those affected vacancies and junority
 
DVL can you explain the list? It makes no sense. It doesn't appear to be in any order.
 
As someone whose union does not "bump and flush", what does the "November 7-12 Talent Services to process virtual awards" and the "24 hours to Accept/Decline" mean? Is that like "You are eligible to bump into the station at Timbuktu as the most junior mechanic in that station?" Or, "You are at the bottom of the pile for every station. Start cleaning out your locker."

If it means that you have 24 hours to decide whether or not to transfer halfway across the country, has it always been that small a window? Doesn't seem like much time to consider a major life-changing decision.
 
MCI transplant said:
Hey, Obama has had four years to change that! -------- So what's he done? ------- Nothing!!! S0 what has Obama done?
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Lets not forget that Obama has had to deal with an obstructionist Congress which openly stated that their number One objective was , not to help fix this country , or decrease unemploymemnt, or stop the exportation og American Jobs, or get Osama Bin Laden, but to get Obama out of office!!!

I fault Obama as being too soft on his opponents who want to further wealth inequality and failing to use the media to take his message directly to the People like FDR and Ronald Reagan did.

As far as the RIF, it looks like at the end of the day the most that would see the street would be less than 230 people, not including those who could bump back into a prior classification.

Some will tout this as a success, say that the sacrifice we all made made the disruptions less severe, but the fact is that enough people felt this place wasnt worth staying is what lowered the number of RIFS, thats certainly nothing to boast about. AA is still only keep the amount of mechanics it needs to run their operations and that number would be the same whether we are making $33/hr with the worst contract in the industry or $40/hr with the same benfits and workrules we see across the industry. AA got everything they think they wanted thanks to people who pretend to be Union.

AA will get to continue to reduce headcount, some of that headcount reduction is due to the fact we get less vacation than anyone else, for every 50 guys on payroll with one less week vacation they get to dump one more worker and still get the same amount of hours of work. That currently gives AA the labor of 230 more mechanics without the 230 heads. The elimination of yet another week, as a large number of workers who remain aproach the years of service where they would get that week allows the company to reduce headcount that much more. Now we have workers that not only get half the sick time, one fifth the amount of equivelent HW hours but also get two weeks less vacation. Even at our reduced wage this represents a pay gap in addition to the lower wage of nearly $7500/year compared to their peers at UAL. When you add in the wage gap of $8300, without adding in any value for our inferior OT, FT and workrules we are already looking at a gap of $16,000/yr.In other words United gets the labor of 5263 mechanics for the same price that AA pays for 7070 mechanics, AA gets the labor of 1807 mechanics essentailly, for free. Thats the equivelent of 3,758,842 manhours of labor per year for free.
What management in the world wouldnt accept a deal that gives them nearly 4 million man hours for free?
 
Bob Owens said:
Lets not forget that Obama has had to deal with an obstructionist Congress which openly stated that their number One objective was , not to help fix this country , or decrease unemploymemnt, or stop the exportation og American Jobs, or get Osama Bin Laden, but to get Obama out of office!!!

I fault Obama as being too soft on his opponents who want to further wealth inequality and failing to use the media to take his message directly to the People like FDR and Ronald Reagan did.
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Obama needn't reinvent the wheel - the message, which he's quoted often, has been out for a number of years in the book "Das Kapital" by Karl Marx.
 
Frank,

Aren't taxes themselves redistribution of wealth? Do you believe that the system is level enough in this country to keep our economy strong? Isn't THAT what Obama was referring to in his quote? Or do you really believe he is as radical as the far right want people to believe?

I only need to look at the airline business and the mis-use of the bankruptcy laws to see how un-level the playing field is but this is going in so many other areas as well.
 
AA89 said:
Frank,

Aren't taxes themselves redistribution of wealth? Do you believe that the system is level enough in this country to keep our economy strong? Isn't THAT what Obama was referring to in his quote? Or do you really believe he is as radical as the far right want people to believe?

I only need to look at the airline business and the mis-use of the bankruptcy laws to see how un-level the playing field is but this is going in so many other areas as well.
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I'm not attempting to say one side or the other has it "correct" - quite the opposite. Both depend on the worker to fund their excesses.

As far as Obama being radical - a good friend of his is Bill Ayers, a university professor in Chicago. Only by the Ayers family's money is he not in prison today for his Weatherman bombing activities.
 
Bob Owens : "Lets not forget that Obama has had to deal with an obstructionist Congress which openly stated that their number One objective was , not to help fix this country , or decrease unemploymemnt, or stop the exportation og American Jobs, or get Osama Bin Laden, but to get Obama out of office!!!"



Thats a good one.

So what was the first two years of his term when the Dems had both houses of Congress with super majorities and the Rep's could stop nothing?

No amount of spin can change the fact the real unemployment rate is 14.7%.
http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp


This is Obama's tarbaby and he is going to wear it on election day, as he should.
 
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