We all have feelings about TWU and the association and it has been well covered time to let them know what we expect in a contract. I expect to have a better then industry standard off the basics, double time full sick pay and 10 days 13% 401k contribution shift diff to a percentage instead of .51 cents for afternoons I'm thinking a 17% base pay raise. Holidays 10, at double time at least. ETC...... DO NOT expect to sacrifice to save OH, that hasn't worked for MCI, AFW, or half of TUL. How many times can we expect to fall for that. Please lets stay away from the TWU sucks talk, thats been covered no reason to be redundant. Question: What does DAL and UAL get for shift diff?