Zero tolerance PHL

[AIRWOMAN]

And rightly so Dell after the beating incident. Up until the beatings I was leaning toward the IBT, but was keeping an open mind and was ready to listen to the IAM's pitch for my vote. Close that book now.

If I were in the women's shoes I should feel like the FIRST place I could go to make a complaint would be my UNION. What the heck are they paying dues for? What a joke :down:
700, your not serious...that was scarasm right?

IAM's pitch??? Where is that?? This close to a vote, possibly, and NOTHING!! It appears this is the way of the IAM.

I agree.....they should, any dues paying member should go to their union first. But it doesn't appear that these women, and here's my disclaimer.....if this is true, have anyone standing behind them.

 

[delldude]

theres not going to be a vote.....

 

[AIRWOMAN]

theres not going to be a vote.....

Are you talking to Fred again??

 

[AIRWOMAN]

theres not going to be a vote.....

Not yet anyway. Just makes you wonder :unsure: ......if the IAM contract and it's precedences are so concrete, why the heck hasn't the NMB ruled yet?? Makes you wonder :unsure: .........read the information from the NMB website.

This is UNUSUAL.

Since single carrier status has been declared, things must be applied SYSTEM WIDE.

PERMANENCY......?????



INVESTIGATION

13. Q: What does the NMB do after an application is received?

A: The general procedure is for the NMB to docket the application, assign it an R-case number, and designate an Investigator who will handle the case investigation. The docketing letter sets forth a time schedule for the carrier to provide a list of potential eligible voters and signature samples. If the NMB notes anything unusual about the application (for example, an unusual craft or class, a jurisdictional question, or an accretion), the NMB does not docket the application, but gives the matter a CR-file number and conducts a pre-docketing investigation.

14. Q: What is a craft or class?

A: Craft or class is a term used for the group of employees the applicant seeks to represent. Crafts or classes must be system-wide.

15. Q: What factors are considered in determining the proper craft or class?

A: The Board considers several facts in determining a proper craft of class including: the composition and relative permanency of the employee grouping along craft or class lines; the functions, duties and responsibilities of the employees; the general nature of the work performed, and; the community of interest between job classifications.

 

[gonzo]

Are you talking to Fred again??

FRED>

<dell

 

[delldude]

Are you talking to Fred again??

take it to the bank....

Not yet anyway. Just makes you wonder :unsure: ......if the IAM contract and it's precedences are so concrete, why the heck hasn't the NMB ruled yet?? Makes you wonder :unsure: .........read the information from the NMB website.

This is UNUSUAL.

Since single carrier status has been declared, things must be applied SYSTEM WIDE.

PERMANENCY......?????





14. Q: What is a craft or class?

A: Craft or class is a term used for the group of employees the applicant seeks to represent. Crafts or classes must be system-wide.
they are...IAM is the sucessor union awarded by NMB...IBT only challenges for a representation election.
15. Q: What factors are considered in determining the proper craft or class?

A: The Board considers several facts in determining a proper craft of class including: the composition and relative permanency of the employee grouping along craft or class lines; the functions, duties and responsibilities of the employees; the general nature of the work performed, and; the community of interest between job classifications.

once again,the IAM is the successor...its contract will impose these items.

 

[700UW]

Eric I am dead serious.

The Manager "JK" was suspended by Tom McMullen for two weeks with pay.

And the IAM members in the incident were Ramp and they are in a differant district and have differant representatives then the mechanic and related.

 

[littlefatstomach]

Give it up! The company and the union will decide you are a troublemaker and work together to get rid of you! I know - it happened to me.

 

[700UW]

Well if it happened to you then why did you not sue either the union or the company?

 

[AIRWOMAN]

take it to the bank....
once again,the IAM is the successor...its contract will impose these items.

Then please tell everyone why there has not been a declaration as such from the union, unions, company or NMB???

 

[CLTBWIDAYSYR]

From anyone's standpoint, is there anything good about PHL?

The Liberty Bell is kinda cool. As far as the airport is concerned, nothing I can think of.

 

[D M G]

Where do they go from here?

PHL management is, and always will be, weak. I don't care who they put in those positions, their hineys will always pucker when dealing with a certain element on the ramp. They're scared, plain and simple. Now that several hundred have been hired in the past year the situation is much worse than it was in the late 90's. The place is a friggin' ghetto. You have a female FSA with over 20 years service getting threatened by some animal because she complained to him about pornos being shown in the break room. As crushed said, there was another female punched in the face by a male, and nothing was done about it. I won't even get into what was found on the ramp two days in a row this past week, but lets just say that it's not comforting.

The women need to start filing police reports since the company isn't going to do squat about it. I'd also call Randy Canale at home every day until the IAM starts to take it serious. You shouldn't have to work in a hostile environment. His home phone numbers are listed in the book (Delaware County) under S.R. Canale. Forget going to the local officers or the AGCs, that would be a waste of time.

 

[IAM1776PHL]

PHL management is, and always will be, weak. I don't care who they put in those positions, their hineys will always pucker when dealing with a certain element on the ramp. They're scared, plain and simple. Now that several hundred have been hired in the past year the situation is much worse than it was in the late 90's. The place is a friggin' ghetto. You have a female FSA with over 20 years service getting threatened by some animal because she complained to him about pornos being shown in the break room. As crushed said, there was another female punched in the face by a male, and nothing was done about it. I won't even get into what was found on the ramp two days in a row this past week, but lets just say that it's not comforting.

The women need to start filing police reports since the company isn't going to do squat about it. I'd also call Randy Canale at home every day until the IAM starts to take it serious. You shouldn't have to work in a hostile environment. His home phone numbers are listed in the book (Delaware County) under S.R. Canale. Forget going to the local officers or the AGCs, that would be a waste of time.

the phl agc and shopstewards condone this kind of behavior
as they used it on the TWU union brothers and phl F/S union brothes ....and I do agree that phl mgnt was very weak , something uncle al never took care of.I.M.O. he played the phl F/S union side to the tee... and now the
22 are are just where he wanted them on the street fighting to get back there well let me see ,someone please correct me if I'm wrong, probally $65,000 to $100,000 jobs.By the way do as a F/S agent you make that much?

 

[D M G]

the phl agc and shop stewards condone this kind of behavior

I don't agree with you there. The AGCs and shop stewards would never threaten female co-workers with violence or punch them in the face as was just done. Yeah, you may have to pull a knucklehead (male) aside once in a while and let him know what's up, but never a female. The environment down there has never been this bad.

Look at it like this:

Would you walk down a street that you knew had a few mob members living on it at 2:00am? Sure you would. You don't bother them, they won't bother you.

Would you walk down the streets of North Philly at 2:00am? Hell no. I don't care who lives on the street you're going to get messed with.

Well that's the way it is in PHL right now. Dougie and Big Al need to come to PHL and experience it firsthand, before someone gets killed. We know they aren't going to show up though.

I agree with you about the terminations. There are guys in corporate that have wanted a few of these guys terminated for almost two decades. They're loving it.

 

[kao]

DP has a hotline. If these reports are called in and the hotline doesn't get resolution I'd be very surpised and disappointed. What about the union? Aren't they also there to protect workers from bullies?

The hotline is not for reporting this kind of stuff...it is the ethics line....

ok...i am not an employee....I can tell you alot about the new management in PHL though....feel free to PM me if you want any info from past first hand experience...if I were the one getting harrassd...
1st...it is a violation of the "handbook" that was published in years past
2nd...if you have gone the chain of "command"...then go higher sister!!!AND DON'T HESTITATE OR WAIT ANOTHER DAY!

3rd...do not expect too much change with new management...the people i still keep in touch with say nothin has changed much...
4th...maybe this should be 1st?? you do need to seek legal counsel....from past experience, the company cringes at this...