2015 AMT Discussion

[1AA]

Interesting. Does that mean no PT employees at all? How many PT mechanics are there currently on both sides?

Interesting. Does that mean no PT employees at all? How many PT mechanics are there currently on both sides?

Never had on the AA side. That was an easy article to T/A.

 

[700UW]

No part time mechanics at US.

 

[WeAAsles]

Never had on the AA side. That was an easy article to T/A.

Do you know if the US side has any? But if there was even an article that addressed PT and it means the company won't go that route at all, that's a good thing.

PT really doesn't make sense in maintenance anyway.

 

[MetalMover]

No part time mechanics at US.

There has been PT language/codes for mechs at LAA..But there never has been any.

 

[MetalMover]

Do you know if the US side has any? But if there was even an article that addressed PT and it means the company won't go that route at all, that's a good thing.

PT really doesn't make sense in maintenance anyway.

I believe with respect to the gate agents, they are moving away from PT. I could be wrong....

 

[WeAAsles]

I believe with respect to the gate agents, they are moving away from PT. I could be wrong....

This is the language they got on that. Not much. And they have no caps in the UAL Fleet deal they're voting on today either. But they didn't have it yesterday either.

Not a fan of PT but I do understand why the company wants it in our group especially when you have staggered flights in some cities.

http://american-agents.org/app/uploads/2015/10/Article_31_Part_Time_Employees.pdf

 

[WeAAsles]

There has been PT language/codes for mechs at LAA..But there never has been any.

And I hope you never get any either. PT degrades the commitment to the job IMO. This might not be someone's primary job otherwise and with "some" people they certainly show it.

 

[1AA]

Do you know if the US side has any? But if there was even an article that addressed PT and it means the company won't go that route at all, that's a good thing.
PT really doesn't make sense in maintenance anyway.

UPS has part time AMT'S. You hire in part time and wait for a full-time upgrade. They are the only ones that have part time AMT'S as far as I know.

 

[WeAAsles]

UPS has part time AMT'S. You hire in part time and wait for a full-time upgrade. They are the only ones that have part time AMT'S as far as I know.

I could see a package delivery company doing that. I don't think they run an all day operation on flights? And if they need a PT mechanic to stay longer they probably have language in their contract to provide for that like we do on the ramp? "PT Extention"

 

[Vortilon]

Considering I have shown support for your work group and your efforts to instate AMFA I will assume that is not directed at ALL Fleet Service Clerks.

No, we appreciate your support.

 

[Duke787]

Does anybody know if USairways has a separate avionics department at their Hub stations? Also does anybody know if we are moving away from an avionics department in the line stations?
 
Thanks.

 

[Deleted member 14439]

Question for any LUS AMT. Do line and base AMTS work the same schedules? Do they make the same money? Thx.

 

[700UW]

Does anybody know if USairways has a separate avionics department at their Hub stations? Also does anybody know if we are moving away from an avionics department in the line stations?
 
Thanks.

 
The hubs and some focus and line stations, have Line Avionics.
 

Question for any LUS AMT. Do line and base AMTS work the same schedules? Do they make the same money? Thx.

They make the same money, except the hangar doesnt get line pay and they all have days, afternoons and midnights, but the hangar is usually closed on Holidays, and the line is open.

 

[Eagle]

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[swamt]

You guys are talking past each other. Southwest has four lines of heavy overhaul, as provided under your contract. There were three, and once the fleet hit 621, your scope clause required a fourth.

700 misspoke when he said "C checks" as those are not necessarily heavy maintenance. Under your contract, all C checks are in-house. Obviously, WN calls heavy overhaul something else - at AA they were (still?) called "Heavy C checks." According to AA, a narrowbody C check is performed about every 15-18 months, takes about three days and about 2,100 man-hours.

Every few years, a heavy C check is performed, which takes 3-5 weeks and requires 20,000 to 30,000 man-hours. Except for the four lines at DAL, all WN heavy airframe overhauls are performed by contractors. WN says so in its 10-K, where it tells investors that WN performs "substantially all" of its line maintenance in-house, but contracts with outsiders for most of its heavy overhauls, and they consume the majority of WN's maintenance expenses.
 

Correct. But those C checks don't take much time or money. Your contract guarantees that all of them will be performed in-house. They certainly don't require very many mechanics, as the roster of AMTs does not appear to be growing very fast at WN. Just 2,300 AMTs, plus 300 stock clerks and 200 appearance techs (cleaners). That's a lean workforce for more than 700 aircraft.

Good and accurate info. Well then I could see the confusion. You will start to see a larger number of new hires in 16-18 on and off as SWA adds the new hangars and lines of mait. including I believe 2 or 3 more "C" checks being added in 3 or 4 different cities. A far as manpower for the "C" check lines I can only go by the one in Dallas which has 44 or 45 on the crew. I do agree 100% that we are a lean workforce and in some places too lean. Not saying that it's ok, but SWA has always ran a lean workforce.