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5TH Worst Airline in the WORLD

US may be a far cry from Thai & Singapore, but I would not classify them as anywhere near the 5th to the bottom worldwide. For one thing, US's safety standards are probably very close to the top of the list. (This is one area where US really excels.) :up:

I have stated many times on this board that US has an image problem. And when people reply to these unscientific surveys, the majority of the responses are based on perception and not fact.

Image ?


Not to be Rude, But have You flown on some of the West Side B737's or the 757's to Hawaii ? That Paints the Perfect Picture of Image.
 
Unless they are retired we have 737's on the west that don't even have individual air vents to adjust above your seat. What kind of third world airline is this? That's what I'd be saying if I were a paying passenger sweating on a plane in PHX. We have come a long way since Tempe took over and 'RE-BRANDED' the airline. This company STILL doesn't know what it is, who it wants to attract or what it wants to be. This airline is in limbo wanting desperately for someone to hook up but nobody will or has a desire. 🙄
 
I have stated many times on this board that US has an image problem. And when people reply to these unscientific surveys, the majority of the responses are based on perception and not fact.

But, don't you see? In the customer service business, perception is ALL that matters. It doesn't matter how clean your a/c are if the public has a perception that they are dirty. People to whom a clean airplane is important will book away on another airline that they perceive to be clean. And, once you have developed a public perception for some shortcoming that causes people to book away, it is extremely difficult to correct that perception. Stating facts will not do it. As some posters on this board so clearly demonstrate, once some people's minds are made up, they become extremely annoyed when you try to confuse them with facts.
 
What is going to be interesting is the merger with Airtran. From what the papers are saying they are going to keep Airtran 717 and are looking at putting the Boeing 737-800 into service.

According to a friend who is a WN pilot, the 717 (which IIRC seats about 100?) is going to give them economic access to markets that even the 737 is too big for, or they can increase frequency in markets they are currently serving. It's the same problem we all have with "Do we serve them 3 times a day with mainline a/c or 6 times a day with RJs?" Their ability to serve markets more frequently has hurt the rest of us as much as their fare structures, I think.

There's more than one market where they beat us (AA) on frequency as much as on fares.
 
I am not sure they (WN) are the best in the world. However, I think that they have a lot of things that just make sense. I know exactly what to expect when I get on board. A Boeing 737 that is clean, has nice amount of legroom, almost always friendly employees, bag of peanuts or pretzels, and a glass of something to hydrate me. They don't even necessarily have the lowest fares to a particular destination but you know they are consistently reasonable with consistent service.

What is going to be interesting is the merger with Airtran. From what the papers are saying they are going to keep Airtran 717 and are looking at putting the Boeing 737-800 into service. They would also like to expand to beyond the US boarders. They will be leaving there niche market. I think the reason a lot of people like them is for what they have been doing up to this point. It has been their consistency that keeps people coming back. I flew them recently for the first time in several years. I would say my experience was almost the same as it was back then with the exception of leather seats. A lot of airlines over promise and under deliver with services. This is one thing you don't see with southwest.

As you point out it would be difficult to apply service like Singapore Airlines to any US carrier. For one thing their market is totally different. Their website indicates they have approximately 110 aircraft with many on order. Those aircraft are ALL widebody and are all less than 7 years old. They are constantly updating their fleet. There is no domestic service as Singapore is small enough to drive around in a couple of hours. They serve 61 cities in 34 countries with over 180 daily departures. Compare that to US Airways at over 200 cities in 30 countries with approximately 3,130 daily departures. Easy to see the difference in the scope of operations.

I think if US could just somehow find a way to be more consistent they would pop up a little higher in those ratings. Also, don't tell me you spent X dollars on refurbishing aircraft just keep them clean and safe to fly on. Telling me what you spent to fix something that should have already been done sets you up for failure. My expectations are higher thinking you spent all this money. I am now looking for what improvements you have made only to see the tape that holds up the armrest in my seat. They also need to listen to employee concerns more closely. The employee that spends the time interacting with customers can be the biggest catalyst for improving the bottom line. Again, saying you have wonderful employees in your in flight magazine and showing them with the right tools to get the job done are two different things.

I do think that US has taken some very small steps to fix some of the blunders of the past. I just think it has been too slow and too little to be of much use to get you out of the bottom ranks of customer satisfaction. Hope things start looking up.
Yes, perhaps WN customers know what to expect each and every time. How many times have you non-reved on US when the f/as do the service their "own way" or spend half their time making stupid credit card announcements. Or one day you get an agent who smiles to the customers when boarding and the next day the agent is barking orders. Customer Service... and we are hurting bad. I have been totally embarrassed to fly with some of my colleagues and listen to the way they speak to our customers. All I can say is that there are 8500 people out there that applied for 320 jobs.......for a whole lot less!!!!!
 
The flights are slam full. For 2010 we will rank at the top of the industry for on-time performance, completion factor, and baggage handling .... and near the top for fewest consumer complaints? Am I missing something? :huh:
 
The flights are slam full. For 2010 we will rank at the top of the industry for on-time performance, completion factor, and baggage handling .... and near the top for fewest consumer complaints? Am I missing something? :huh:
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The flights are slam full. For 2010 we will rank at the top of the industry for on-time performance, completion factor, and baggage handling .... and near the top for fewest consumer complaints? Am I missing something? :huh:

I keep hearing that over and over again. Best at on-time performance and baggage...blah. Enough already..That is standard type stuff that is minimum expected and is not something to brag about!! That like McDonalds saying they are better than burger king because they don't mess up your order as often. lol All the airlines are within a hair of eachother at baggage handling and being on time. People expect that kind of basic standard, its what you do differently from the moment a customer checks in till they walk off the plane that sets an impression. Another note US Airways likes to compare itself only to the big 5 for on-time, baggage, complaints. Well they are the smallest of the big 5 in flights so that should give them an advantage in those areas anyway..yawn.
 
The flights are slam full. For 2010 we will rank at the top of the industry for on-time performance, completion factor, and baggage handling .... and near the top for fewest consumer complaints? Am I missing something? :huh:
Yes, RCA at it's best except for complaints. But a big complaint category is customer service, which is where US did poorly in the Zagat survey. Passengers expect RCA from any airline they buy a ticket on, just like safety, so being near the top there doesn't really result in a positive perception of a carrier.

Jim
 
Yes, perhaps WN customers know what to expect each and every time. How many times have you non-reved on US when the f/as do the service their "own way" or spend half their time making stupid credit card announcements. Or one day you get an agent who smiles to the customers when boarding and the next day the agent is barking orders. Customer Service... and we are hurting bad. I have been totally embarrassed to fly with some of my colleagues and listen to the way they speak to our customers. All I can say is that there are 8500 people out there that applied for 320 jobs.......for a whole lot less!!!!!

One thing I have noticed over the years is how much nicer
SW's terminals are compared to ours. Our BEST terminal
is average compared to theirs. SW is the total package.

NICDOA
NPJB
 
The flights are slam full. For 2010 we will rank at the top of the industry for on-time performance, completion factor, and baggage handling .... and near the top for fewest consumer complaints? Am I missing something? :huh:

YES!

The general public has a different perception as do Frequent Flyers and as we all know perception IS reality.
 
YES!

The general public has a different perception as do Frequent Flyers and as we all know perception IS reality.
And some members of the general public are still complaining about not getting a full meal service from PIT to PHL. US has some of the worst passengers I've seen on any airline when it comes to complaining. Including the guy that used to pass out business cards with the DOT complaint number on them and encourage people to call even when things were operating perfectly.

I'm not saying US doesn't drop the ball and deserve some scorn, but they get way more abuse than they deserve at times as well. When you buy a ticket based solely on the lowest price, maybe you shouldn't be expecting first class service in the back of the bus.
 

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