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The ol' guy still has it.

There's no rubber in 'dem bones' could you say the same about the other aviation union leaders?



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Union Leader-O.V. Delle-Femine

Company Stooge-insert name of ALPA, PFAA, IAM member in leadership position


NW Striker don't worry- Dude, You got a Dell
 
proAMFA said:
The ol' guy still has it.

There's no rubber in 'dem bones' could you say the same about the other aviation union leaders?
Definition:

Union Leader-O.V. Delle-Femine

Company Stooge-insert name of ALPA, PFAA, IAM member in leadership position
NW Striker don't worry- Dude, You got a Dell
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thank ya kindly.............
 
Amazing since Dell Computers outsources just about everything particularly to Asia......but then so will NWA shortly.
 
NWAMSP said:
Amazing since Dell Computers outsources just about everything particularly to Asia......but then so will NWA shortly.
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Even more amazing, TWU members and officers didn't mind the discount purchase program for Dell's offered at AA. I believe it was called on-time on-line.

How many USA jobs did TWU elminate?
 
TWU informer said:
Even more amazing, TWU members and officers didn't mind the discount purchase program for Dell's offered at AA. I believe it was called on-time on-line.

How many USA jobs did TWU elminate?
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On a per mechanic per aircraft basis, a LOT less than AMFA. In NWAs 4/2/01 financial statements, they listed 424 operating aircraft and 9,300 AMFA members. Today (per their 2004 annual report) they have 435 operating aircraft with about 4,500 AMFA members last Friday and 0 today. NW has increased by 11 aircraft since 2001 yet their AMT numbers continually declined. At AA they have about 6,000 fewer AMTs, but their fleet went from about 950 (AA+TWA) down to about 740 now- a decrease of 210 aircraft. Since the number of AMTs needed is directly tied to the number of aircraft operating, when you ground a significant number of planes, you will obviously lay off a lot of AMTs (and pilots, F/A, and others). The TWU can not tell AA how many planes it can and can't ground. What is AMFA's excuse?
 
Is this Delle's first strike as a union leader?

Does he have much experience in orchestrating a real strike?

Funny how for 40 years almost nobody wanted in his little union until wages began crashing; then, all of a sudden, he was the savior who would lead all the downtrodden to the land of milk and honey. And to think that for 40 years, he was wandering the desert all by himself. What a land of opportunity we have in the USA. 😀
 
This is Delle's and AMFA's fifth strike in the airline industry. All four of the previous strikes were successfull for AMFA as this one will be! :up:
 
Did he lead any strikes while he was cutting meat in the grocery store when amfa had no members?
 
Dell is forcing himself into retirement. I think he is trying to follow Ron L. Hubbard’s footsteps. (Write a book, get a bunch of no brainer fools wrapped up in it then die.) A genius science fiction writer brainwashes a bunch of fools that needs someone to follow, creates a "new religion", now he’s a legend.

Dell Recruits members for his own financial gain, brainwashes them, takes their money for decades, leads them to poverty then retires. He to will soon be a legend. Where is your retirement? Oh it got Delld
 
700UW, why don't you take your SCAB ass back to the U. S(cab) AIR board and take KTO with you. Your IAM refused to fight against concessions and led the whole airline industry to ruin. :down:
 
PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH said:
700UW, why don't you take your SCAB ass back to the U. S(cab) AIR board and take KTO with you. Your IAM refused to fight against concessions and led the whole airline industry to ruin. :down:
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Its a DOG EAT DOG world out there. Only the strong survive.
 
700,
You and I agree 99% of the time. However I can not agree with you defending the IAM scab union and what they are doing at Northwest.
 
pitguy said:
700,
You and I agree 99% of the time. However I can not agree with you defending the IAM scab union and what they are doing at Northwest.
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YOU know what they say about Opinions.
 
aafsc said:
On a per mechanic per aircraft basis, a LOT less than AMFA. In NWAs 4/2/01 financial statements, they listed 424 operating aircraft and 9,300 AMFA members. Today (per their 2004 annual report) they have 435 operating aircraft with about 4,500 AMFA members last Friday and 0 today.  NW has increased by 11 aircraft since 2001 yet their AMT numbers continually declined. At AA they have about 6,000 fewer AMTs, but their fleet went from about 950 (AA+TWA) down to about 740 now- a decrease of 210 aircraft. Since the number of AMTs needed is directly tied to the number of aircraft operating, when you ground a significant number of planes, you will obviously lay off a lot of AMTs (and pilots, F/A, and others). The TWU can not tell AA how many planes it can and can't ground. What is AMFA's excuse?
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Perhaps the question should have been how many A&P jobs did the TWU eliminate.


We can look at job elimnation through many different ways. Here is another.

We could go back to 1983, when Mechanics did R&D and Deicing, compare the number of cities served staffed with TWU employees then figure out how many A&Ps we would have had in the system if the TWU had not taken that work away, plus then we would need to add in all the shop positions where A&Ps were pushed out for OSMs. These cuts would have preceeded the 6000 we lost post 9-11.

So not only has the TWU eliminated more A&P jobs but they have been doing it over a long period of time.

If we look at NWAs mechanic/aircraft ratio prior to 9-11, according to your figures 9300/424=22 per aircraft, compared to AAs 13000(-2000 srps) 11,000/950=12 mech per aircraft.

Just prior to the strike NWAs average was just over 10.

So NWA simply cut their ratio closer to what AA had all along, but they were paying them a lot more money.

So despite the lower benifits, less vaction, B-scale, prefunding etc that the TWU imposed on their members the TWU also had a much lower A&Pmechanic to aircraft ratio.

NWA may have lowered their ratio under AMFA to less than what AA had through layoffs but they still got more pay, more vacation, holiday pay, uniforms, medical etc than at AA, and they are willing to fight to keep it.

What do you desire more coworkers or a bigger paycheck? "Gee honey we have to live on Franks and Beans but I sure am glad I have all these new coworkers".
 
FWAAA said:
Is this Delle's first strike as a union leader?

Does he have much experience in orchestrating a real strike?

Funny how for 40 years almost nobody wanted in his little union until wages began crashing; then, all of a sudden, he was the savior who would lead all the downtrodden to the land of milk and honey. And to think that for 40 years, he was wandering the desert all by himself. What a land of opportunity we have in the USA. 😀
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You should stick to your flawed math.

The fact is that line mechanics have trued to get AMFA for most of those 40 years but places like Tulsa, with their very low cost of living collecting wages that were based on other areas of the country never wanted change.

Fuuny how the pro-management are anti-AMFA.
 

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