AFA COUNCIL 70 PHL UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR

[PITbull]

Just like, when the VP of PHL asked you to reveal to the MEC that you had cut a personal deal with Jerry Glass, and you refused.

Pot, meet Kettle.

A deal? Then she is lying. Your a little late with the BS. The entire membership was given full disclosure via an E-line. And there was no deal cut with anyone, let alone with the worst person to labor on the planet. But you already know that.

I was sent the fax of their pay hours of council 70. Don't know where the fax came from, but "poof" it just showed up. You know how that all is. Right? No record of where it came from...just shows up one day. From my understanding it was sent to many folks.

I was quite amazed, no shocked! You know that is serious money and there is no way in hell that the average front line f/a can bring that when working regular scheduled trips and ETB on off days. These union reps can ONLY do it because they can manipulate their schedules within the month.


Let the LECP and LEC VP defend their record at their local meeting by bringing in their last 12 months pay fly hours.

But you know as well as I do, that would be disgraceful to reveal, and it won't happen.

Well now, that system dosen't sound to user-friendly to the work group as a whole.
In that case, a FA should be able to go into the LEC office and view copies of the officers' current schedules on request.

There is no set schedule for them. They make their schedules within the month. Come and go as they please.

 

[sharktooth]

And I thought MOTHER TERESA died several years ago! Now she has RESURFACED in Phillie as a stewardess and waddling up and down an aisle to San Juan.......maybe this esteemed individual need to be "sainted".....Teddy made sacrifices and fought battles for the masses- and let's NOT forget it!

Waddling? Do I see, projection, here?

From what I have seen, your "image" seems a lot more "lounge" than "astro", but then the reference to the Jetson's dog might seem most appropriate.

Yes, Teddy made sacrifices and fought battles for the masses. So does most everyone else.

So what?

 

[PITbull]

Waddling? Do I see, projection, here?

From what I have seen, your "image" seems a lot more "lounge" than "astro", but then the reference to the Jetson's dog might seem most appropriate.

Yes, Teddy made sacrifices and fought battles for the masses. So does most everyone else.

So what?

No sacrificing was done by Teddy. She just performed as she was elected and entrusted to do.

 

[sharktooth]

WOUNDERFUL WORDS FROM THE LEC LOCAL 70......THIS IS THE TYPE WHO REPRESENTS US...CAN YOU BELIEVE IT......CALL THE MEC AND DEMAND HER RECALL 412-262-3375.....AND THEN CALL THE AFA IN WASHINGTON (202) 434-1300 AND REPORT THE UNETHICAL ABUSE OF FUNDS.....THEY ARE YOUR UNION DUES AT WORK, THAT 39.00 A MONTH IS GOING TO 3 OF THE CORRUPT UNION LEADERS.......

WE DESERVE BETTER HELL WE PAY FOR BETTER
CALL NOW AND CALL OFTEN LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD.

Wowee! A sub-teenager who just found out how to use the "caps lock" key.

Hey, airportman, mind if I just use "Dan"? It is so much easier to type.

Could you please list the specifics of "corruption"? Please enumerate the steps used ( you are welcome to speculate) to achieve such a state. You may wish to include rules and regulations violated so as to bring us all up to speed, so we can see your point of view.

Please be specific. If I can grasp your point of view, perhaps a mutually beneficial solution can be forged, sorta what AFA is for.

Please, do not limit yourself to council 70. You may wish to include the MEC office, as well as the other LECs, in order to provide a "balance". Just be certain to apply your "charges" equally. Charging someone in council 70 with "home work" might lead to charges of massive, IMHO, abuse in the MEC office for the same thing, so, be careful who or how you burn.

Go for it.

 

[desertgal]

There is no set schedule for them. They make their schedules within the month. Come and go as they please.

Is there no computer system at East that shows a FAs schedule for the month, both what they have already worked and what they are scheduled to work in the coming days?
No code designators that show how the trip was acquired (original to line, thru personal trades, or company open time)?
Daily codes for Union Business, sick, medical leave, etc?
At the end of the month, is there no way to look back and see? And make a hard copy to be posted in the office?

 

[USCREW]

Is there no computer system at East that shows a FAs schedule for the month, both what they have already worked and what they are scheduled to work in the coming days?
No code designators that show how the trip was acquired (original to line, thru personal trades, or company open time)?
Daily codes for Union Business, sick, medical leave, etc?
At the end of the month, is there no way to look back and see? And make a hard copy to be posted in the office?

There is but it is private/passcode protected. Management has access, not other F/As

 

[desertgal]

There is but it is private/passcode protected. Management has access, not other F/As

Yes, but does each FA have access to their own?
Thus being able to pass their schedule out to friends, family, etc?
Or post it so all FAs can see they are not fleecing the system?

 

[USCREW]

Yes, but does each FA have access to their own?
Thus being able to pass their schedule out to friends, family, etc?
Or post it so all FAs can see they are not fleecing the system?

F/As have access to their own and can print out and pass to whomever. Sure you can also post it for all to see, but the schedule is only as current as that day since you can continue to change your schedule daily.

 

[desertgal]

F/As have access to their own and can print out and pass to whomever. Sure you can also post it for all to see, but the schedule is only as current as that day since you can continue to change your schedule daily.

Well then, I guess a Union Officer who is beyond reproach could print a hard copy at the end of the month, post it in the office, and then all could review it at the beginning of the following month and be satisfied.
Yes?
After all, it is info that dues paying members are entitled to.

 

[PITbull]

Well then, I guess a Union Officer who is beyond reproach could print a hard copy at the end of the month, post it in the office, and then all could review it at the beginning of the following month and be satisfied.
Yes?
After all, it is info that dues paying members are entitled to.

These officers are PPO, meaning that the line is PPO and no flying other than ETB will show. They must get their hours either by flying or receiving the money from the union budget. So, each get 105, either from what the company just "gives" the base, or from union dues $$. Why, because they are not flying regular trips or AIL. If they say they are in the office, they need to be in there 5 days a week, as there is a LOCAL OFFICE paid by the membership. Flight attendants who have no vacation must work 105 to receive 105 company time. Are these reps taking vacation or are they being paid out by the company on top of 105 and ETB, because no other f/a can get their vacation paid out...thats called vacation fly back, and that has not been offered for over one year.

Some union Reps will share the company paid flight pay loss, but in PHL, it is all paid to one officer, and the other receives their 105 international pay and all premiums from union dues $$. That is why it is the right of the members to request what they are doing with the union $$. As I said 105 equates to 21 days a month working a min. of 8 hours as do f/as who work the line to receive 5 hours of flight paid time.

 

[airportman]

Wowee! A sub-teenager who just found out how to use the "caps lock" key.

Hey, airportman, mind if I just use "Dan"? It is so much easier to type.

Could you please list the specifics of "corruption"? Please enumerate the steps used ( you are welcome to speculate) to achieve such a state. You may wish to include rules and regulations violated so as to bring us all up to speed, so we can see your point of view.

Please be specific. If I can grasp your point of view, perhaps a mutually beneficial solution can be forged, sorta what AFA is for.

Please, do not limit yourself to council 70. You may wish to include the MEC office, as well as the other LECs, in order to provide a "balance". Just be certain to apply your "charges" equally. Charging someone in council 70 with "home work" might lead to charges of massive, IMHO, abuse in the MEC office for the same thing, so, be careful who or how you burn.

Go for it.

READ THE THREAD AND IF YOU CANT FOLLOW IT RESIGN.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

Hon, you really need to deal with your anger.

sharktooth, I am amazed you have the nerve to tell PITbull about "anger management." Didn't that shakedown by Sheeneequa and subsequent lockdown teach you anything....especially "anger management."

Ta!
Eye

 

[Lovethesun]

FYI. CATCREW assigns a value of 5+00 for each AFA day -- this is a change since the LTO RSV system was put in place (before RSV LTO, "AFA days" had no value). That time may or may not be actually paid by AFA. Flight Pay Loss (AFA paid time) is not reflected in CATS. Therefore, a flight attendant off schedule on AFA business for 5 days (25+00 in CATS) may only receive five or ten hours Flight Pay Loss for those days -- this will not be reflected in CATS (but will cause a RSV's LTO to go "through the roof").

I just want to point out that what we see in CATS does not accurately reflect what a F/A on AFA business actually sees in his or her paycheck.

Just my 2 cents.

(P.S. -- thank you to all the flight attendants, elected and vounteer, that make AFA work for us all)

My understanding with AFA and reserve is if the f/a is AFA then AFA has to pay the f/a because the f/a is taken off of the schedule for the company. Is that true? And I would like to also say thank you to those who do VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME FOR AFA for all that you do for us.

 

[Lovethesun]

You are completely wacked out, as usual.

Speaking for one of the PHL reps, who is senior enough to bid the highest paying block, to start.

Except for vacation, she is in the office five god#####(edited by mod) days per week. She flys one or two days on the weekend, usually the PHL-SJU-PHL.

I don't know if you noticed, not that I would expect, since you seem to have lived in a phonebooth, but very little administratively can be accomplished on weekends with this company.

I cannot tell you all times her vacation time is interrupted with "union business", cleaning up the unfinished business from PIT. I am somewhat peeved that you, the fault for much of the problems, seems to think you can take shots at people for problems you have created.

I, and the IRS, consider all the work she does as a "charity". The auditor actually felt sorry for her.

Hon, you really need to deal with your anger.

Sharktooth....There is plenty that could be accomplished in the union office on the weekends. Did you forget that the airline business for flight attendants is 7 days a week and all Holidays and is definitely not a 9 to 5 job. So the union office should be open more than just during the week. Oh, probably is hard to commute in to work in the office on the weekend.

 

[Lovethesun]

I don't get this. So why don't you run for the office or at least stop by and see what they have to deal with day in and day out? I am sure it is NOT pretty. Constant phone calls, questions, problems, upset F/A's, termination meetings, etc.... I would think that the better deal would be to collect 73 like the rest of us and work the occasional ETB. Let 'em enjoy their ETB trips!!! Thank you AFA70 for all the hard work you do. Union work will always be a thankless job....expect little or no respect until one of these people find themselves desperate, on the final level of dependability. Then, the tables will turn... Geez....

Have to say maybe we all should put our names in for office. Let's recall and have a re-election. Sure alot of people would like to have the chance to make 150 hours to 180 hours a month international pay. Or be the reserve chair and make 135 hours a month. When the rest of us are not able to fly that many hours as a reserve. We all know what the pay scale is for all.