Afa Meeting

[desertgal]

PineyBob, the seniority lists won't be integrated until the certificates are. Probably in about 2 years.
By then Doug should have both airlines 'right-sized' (his words).

 

[proudf/a]

Whoops sorry. New here-- :blink: as a furlughed US/East flight attendant with 4 active years the only thing I can really ask for is to come back (when all is said and done) with my 4 active years. So what if I spend some time at the bottom of the HP list, maybe I'll learn something new, after all the HP folk have some history to bring to this as well. I hope everyone can agree but I'm really not interested in bumping, flushing, wiping or anything else like that. I'm just ready for this to be over with so we can show all of the skeptics that we CAN do what they said we couldn't.

You have not been forgotten, the sacrafices that the furloughed f/a's have made. I wish you well, hopefully you will be back soon. YOU do not deserve to go to the bottom of the seniority list, nor should you have too. Those of us still active are fighting for you. Hang in there!

 

[USstew23]

You have not been forgotten, the sacrafices that the furloughed f/a's have made. I wish you well, hopefully you will be back soon. YOU do not deserve to go to the bottom of the seniority list, nor should you have too. Those of us still active are fighting for you. Hang in there!

Thanks Proud!!!

 

[tahitigirl]

I think that the AWA AFA has no other choice than to at least try. How would you feel if you paid union dues, and they didn't even try.

It's like a pax asking if you have fruit (lemon and lime) and you say "let me go to the back and see". You know there is no fruit but it looks better that you "tried".

 

[UWCactus]

You mean, like if you go into the office as a supervisor or into the training dept? If that is what you mean, the policy has always been, you retain your f/a seniority. If you totally leave the inflt department, then you would lose the f/a seniority. I do not know if that policy has changed. We have f/a's that started as a gate agent. For travel benefits they retain their original doh, but when they started as a f/a they were given another doh used for f/a seniority. Does this answer your question, at all?

Yes...this answer my question to a point. Did the company ever have it's own policy when you left the FA position to seek other jobs within the company..or was it always governed by a union contract? Did the department that you transfer to always have to be "inflight", could have been Yield management or something like that? Did you have to maintain inflight qualifications while off line? I appreciate your info on this...thanks for responding to my post.

 

[proudf/a]

Yes...this answer my question to a point. Did the company ever have it's own policy when you left the FA position to seek other jobs within the company..or was it always governed by a union contract? Did the department that you transfer to always have to be "inflight", could have been Yield management or something like that? Did you have to maintain inflight qualifications while off line? I appreciate your info on this...thanks for responding to my post.

As far as I am aware, if you transfer departments, leave inflt to be a gate agent. You do not carry your f/a hire date to that department with you, you retain that hire date for non-rev status. I do not believe there is anything in the contract governing this, it has always been company policy. If you move from being a line f/a to the office for a supervisor position, you go into the training department, any AFA work, or company business, you still retain your f/a doh. You will hold your slot on the seniority list, when you return to the line, you havent lost anything. As far as qualifications, as long as you do recurrent, your qualifications do not expire. Hope thats what you are looking for.

 

[Travelpro72]

Man this is a nail biter. We are to find out today about the vote correct? Just can't wait to get this behind us all.

 

[PHX-F/A]

Nothing has happened with that vote yet. They have been in different meetings on different days. But you're right, the vote comes up either wednesday or thursday. I"m sure there will be a post on this soon.

AFA66 said the vote would probably be late on Thursday.

 

[PHX-F/A]

Though I agree it would be unfair for AFA to change the bylaws at this point, I think the US/West FAs are trying to protect their interests. Prior to the announcement of the merger there was no reason for them to protest those bylaws and I doubt that most of them knew they existed. Who can blame them for trying to change something they feel is unfair? I doubt any group would have acted differently. I disagree with this agenda item on many counts but I don't blame the US/West FAs for proposing it.

No, a small number of us knew that they existed. UA made an offer to buy HP back when William Franke was CoB, CEO,and President. It was talked about back then. A large number of people wanted to be part of UA, yet another group did not want to give up the HP identitiy (sound familiar) and they are the ones who talkd about the DOH clause.

 

[USstew23]

For real, I thought this vote would be over with already. The way they were talking yesterday I thought we would know last night, I've been checking my email like some psycho 😛h34r:

Anyway I think we are all in agreement, let's just get this over with and behind us and get on with the party. I'm way over this desk job and it's almost time for happy hour!