American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[cltrat]

Rat—

What’s a “scripted turn?”

They have these cards with A, B, C with duties for the turn assigned to a letter.They want me to tell the agents what letter they are.they claim it being done elsewhere

 

[Kev3188]

They have these cards with A, B, C with duties for the turn assigned to a letter.They want me to tell the agents what letter they are.they claim it being done elsewhere

Gotcha. We had something similar for awhile... It didn't last long...

 

[MerlinMagician]

Just a reminder the Company Pension at LAA is frozen.

So i'm not sure if this was talked about or even noticed, but for all the lemmings and company cheerleaders (ie.. the know it all, seen it all, and claims it all, Mr T. Nelson)that want to force a vote or claim that everyone they have talked to will vote it in. Take a look at the M&R proposal that the company put out and look at Article 30 "Retirement", page 164, paragraph F and G. It says " The company reserves the right to amend the 401K plan at the Companys sole discretion. Also "The 401K Plan is NOT incorporated in this agreement". So even though the company doesn't want to come close to offering what is paid to some of the other employee groups 401K they want to amend this employee groups plan anytime they want. I can pretty much guess that they are not going to increase the percentages just to be nice. Not wanting it to be included into the agreement tells me that there is no way of enforcement. I only skimmed over the agreement but this stuck out plain as day. I would take my chances and let the negotiators work on your behalf because as you can see the company is not.

 

[ALUS78]

You are not a member nor can you vote

You see, just give info dont provoke

 

[ALUS78]

You are not a member nor can you vote

If a person is 62 and is considering retiring should he get out before September 2019 before the IAMPF changes rules???its not for me that i ask.ill be 60 soon and plan on another 8 years God willing

 

[ALUS78]

AA has to contribute $907 million this year to all of AA’s almost $7 billion underfunded pensions and the TWU part is almost $2 billion underfunded

Yes they should take that number divide it by how many employees are not in the plan and cut us a check

 

[charlie Brown]

If a person is 62 and is considering retiring should he get out before September 2019 before the IAMPF changes rules???its not for me that i ask.ill be 60 soon and plan on another 8 years God willing

The answer really depends on which plan we get under. My understanding so far, is that if we get under the preferred program, then you will have until 2022 to retire without a reduction. If you go after 2022, then you have to wait until your 65 to get full benefit with no reduction.

 

[ALUS78]

The answer really depends on which plan we get under. My understanding so far, is that if we get under the preferred program, then you will have until 2022 to retire without a reduction. If you go after 2022, then you have to wait until your 65 to get full benefit with no reduction.

Thank you, do you have any idea when we will know what plan. September is closer than you think

 

[charlie Brown]

Thank you, do you have any idea when we will know what plan. September is closer than you think

I have been told that since we are in negotiations that we get 180 days after September, which would put us into March. And if we haven’t agreed by then with the company about what plan, then we automatically go to the default plan.

 

[WeAAsles]

So here’s something interesting particularly for those AMT’s who read here that were saying it was Fleet that were holding them hostage towards getting a deal.

Fleet and MCT have 8 Articles left.
AMT has 9
MLS has 11
MTS has 12

Seems to me as if no one was holding the AMT’s hostage.

 

[ALUS78]

I have been told that since we are in negotiations that we get 180 days after September, which would put us into March. And if we haven’t agreed by then with the company about what plan, then we automatically go to the default plan.

Thanks again,so I guess its stay tuned.

 

[lax]

Please don’t take offense but I think philosophically the IAM seems to be a little too Management friendly for my tastes. That proposal seems to be loaded with language that lets the CSM tell me what to do where in the TWU books we answer to ourselves (The Crew Chief)

“When and where so directed” = Management can tell me what to do.

And language that allows them to float in and out of our CBA doesn’t mean they’re getting a second chance, it means they have a lifeline. It almost encourages people to take the Management road knowing the repercussions are only the loss of a couple of bucks if they get knocked back.

I understand we had no choice on this Association and in life you need to learn to make the best of things (adapt) but I never thought the incorporation of the IAM language meant the TWU could lose its entire identity.

Ugh just the thought of some goofball know nothing CSM telling me what to do gives me the skeeves.

finally getting it TG! the IAM needs to be escorted the hell off the property

 

[WeAAsles]

MIA Contract Poll now at

81 No
26 Yes

 

[Birdman]

When is someone going to post a bullet point synopsis of this "beyond industry leading" proposal the company put on the table that Parker referred to?

 

[bigjets]

Have we been put on ice by mediator?