American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[WeAAsles]

 

[PIEDMONT784]

NEGOTIATIONS:

"Only thing that I have been told so far today about the meetings on Monday and Tuesday with the company is that conversations were done to clear up some different opinions on some language in a few of the articles that we had. (T/A,D) And that those issues were fixed. No progress on any of the big issues that remain. So I know what your thinking, if this is all that was done, why couldn't a phone call have been done to fix those issues. Anyway, thats all that I have on the meetings. Maybe the association will put out a official word in the next few days. I would assume they would put something out to comment on this past week. If I hear of anything else, I of course will update everyone."

~ Portion of an email from Mark Baskett titled update dated on 6/13/18

Weez, it is IMPOSSIBLE to satisfy the TN trolls.... that's why they are, what they are...

You "might" make them happy if you simply type the following-- "I'm wrong you guys are right -- Tim Nelson is a supreme, super intelligent campaigner, and negotiator -- The associations sucks, and the company is always right"

You may want to add some support of state, to state right to work laws, and the national right to work act, and these dudes will be eating out of your hands!

>SPIT<

 

[ALUS78]

actually, nobody other than Sito or Alex have seen the full company proposal. The negotiation committees are told a recap. The company has called the association bull crap by correcting some clean lies by Sito. The union is saying the company is lying. Both cant be correct about some things so someone definately is lying. We dont know because we have been given 3rd hand play by play, by both.

Worse than 3rd hand its usually sombodys interpretation more often than not an emotional somebody who is clearly biased

 

[WeAAsles]

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AANOTOK there it is. No more dates scheduled and basically no movement. It’s looking more and more likely to me that we’ll be heading on in to Section 6.

 

[WeAAsles]

Solidarity in PHL.

 

[AANOTOK]

AANOTOK there it is. No more dates scheduled and basically no movement. It’s looking more and more likely to me that we’ll be heading on in to Section 6.

Seems to be headed that way.

 

[Colonel.Ramp]

So in IAH you got three entities Piedmont Express, Envoy, mainline AA all working 26 mainline flights. Now that sounds like one big harmonized party

Only Envoy is in IAH which is going to be TWU at some point. Piedmont was in reference to Charlotte. Mainline left IAH ramp side in bankruptcy as well as AMT's.

 

[ALUS78]

AANOTOK there it is. No more dates scheduled and basically no movement. It’s looking more and more likely to me that we’ll be heading on in to Section 6.

This could take years,should we send in fresh faces? To me it doesn't make sense to keep going with what didnt work

 

[MikeS]

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You think this is information, this is nothing to me but the same update every week. I want specifics, what is the unions position on scope, on wages, on profit sharing,etc.

Basically I want to know how far apart we are from the company's proposal, I want to know if we are moving off of some of our "Line in the sand Items".We never get this what we get is, well we t/a'd uniforms or we t/a'd vacations, that means nothing to me. I want specifics, and you can say the NC can't give specifics, I say BS. The company did and it's not 1964 anymore, we the members want more info.

 

[WeAAsles]

This could take years,should we send in fresh faces? To me it doesn't make sense to keep going with what didnt work

Sorry Al but I never know when I should bother to respond to you anymore because you’re just setting me or whoever up for your next punch line?

 

[WeAAsles]

You think this is information, this is nothing to me but the same update every week. I want specifics, what is the unions position on scope, on wages, on profit sharing,etc.

Basically I want to know how far apart we are from the company's proposal, I want to know if we are moving off of some of our "Line in the sand Items".We never get this what we get is, well we t/a'd uniforms or we t/a'd vacations, that means nothing to me. I want specifics, and you can say the NC can't give specifics, I say BS. The company did and it's not 1964 anymore, we the members want more info.

December 2015. 90% of what they asked for is right there. And they want more jobs, not less.

 

[Tim Nelson]

You think this is information, this is nothing to me but the same update every week. I want specifics, what is the unions position on scope, on wages, on profit sharing,etc.

Basically I want to know how far apart we are from the company's proposal, I want to know if we are moving off of some of our "Line in the sand Items".We never get this what we get is, well we t/a'd uniforms or we t/a'd vacations, that means nothing to me. I want specifics, and you can say the NC can't give specifics, I say BS. The company did and it's not 1964 anymore, we the members want more info.

This update is the most important update ever. It is very telling.

The union says that things are at an impasse. They want us to focus on that. This suggest that they will not bring a TA but rather step aside and allow the company to present its offer to the members for a vote. I repeat, this update suggest that the offer will be voted upon without union agreement.

This happened 15 years ago. Same ****. But if the proposal is voted upon, it will pass by 95% since nobody has confidence in the Association.

 

[MikeS]

December 2015. 90% of what they asked for is right there.

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I don't want info from 2015 I would like current info. Do you honestly think things haven't changed in the last three years.

 

[MikeS]

This update is the most important update ever. It is very telling.

The union says that things are at an impasse. They want us to focus on that. This suggest that they will not bring a TA but rather step aside and allow the company to present its offer to the members for a vote. I repeat, this update suggest that the offer will be voted upon without union agreement.

This happened 15 years ago. Same ****. But if the proposal is voted upon, it will pass by 95% since nobody has confidence in the Association.

Agree. The company is winning the PR war because the ASS is to bogged down with to many different agendas. I have talked to alot of people at my station and everyone i've talked to except the union reps want to vote.

 

[ALUS78]

Sorry Al but I never know when I should bother to respond to you anymore because you’re just setting me or whoever up for your next punch line?

Honest question