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Rusty Hilock said:
Some people just see reality for what it really is and accept it. Others keep in their self built "safe spaces" and REFUSE to accept reality.
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Reality was I knew the Company was going to file for Bankruptcy the first time and actually thought it was going to be sooner. Reality is I’m a 53 Year old MAN and not some punk kid who needs “safe spaces” Actually it’s a little sniveler like you who thinks Daddy Bankruptcy Judge is going to hoit him again that maybe needs the night light in the Hallway?

Now stop bothering me with you little wah wah AA is going to go belly up sniveling chit. Cause you’re really gettin on my nerves with ya PSY crap now.
 
swamt said:
Pretty damn sad isn't it? Are you guys asking why the NC is keeping the details from the membership? Per Bob Owens the co. asked them not to share and the NC complied. What gives? What are they hiding or afraid of when the membership sees all the details??? Weez don't know crap. He simply spouts off at the mouth with misinformation when it comes to the mechanics contract. He really does need to stay in the fleet forum. Let the mechanics discuss the mechanics contract.
I did like how Bob was saying they are nego for restoring what they gave up in the 2003 contract, now would be the time to get it.
So do you guys still not know the new adjusted top out rates???
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I’ve explained before, the top out rates will be based on annual percentage increase over the terms of the contract or a set percentage above the next highest airline, whichever would be greater for us.
If you are referring to top out at DOS....that has yet to be determined.
 
WeAAsles said:
That’s ABSOLUTELY not going to happen if we’re in a hurry to make sure we vote before entering the dreaded (And frightening) expanse know as the RLA Section 6 process.

(Section 6 or better known as the Mutara Nebula)
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Weez...

Here is my prediction -- The company will stall all the way to section six. Trump will sign the National Right to Work Act before an agreement is ever reached. The RLA/Airline Unions will be in complete disarray as members "opt out" of dues" as the closed shop provisions evaporate, along with funding to maintain the institution.

Final result-- better than BK for the company, because they will see shareholder value, and approval, along with enthusiasm for more investment.

Timmy, of course will ultimately blame the Unions and Democrats, and take an (official) position within corporate communications...

>SPIT<
 
PIEDMONT784 said:
Weez...

Here is my prediction -- The company will stall all the way to section six. Trump will sign the National Right to Work Act before an agreement is ever reached. The RLA/Airline Unions will be in complete disarray as members "opt out" of dues" as the closed shop provisions evaporate, along with funding to maintain the institution.

Final result-- better than BK for the company, because they will see shareholder value, and approval, along with enthusiasm for more investment.

Timmy, of course will ultimately blame the Unions and Democrats, and take an (official) position within corporate communications...

>SPIT<
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Unfortunately, you are right that I will blame the anti unionist who are running our union, including Mr Baskett who will step aside and allow the company proposal to be voted upon and knife us in the back and lose our health care. Otherwise, me and you are on the same page IF you keep our health care. BUT WE BOTH KNOW YOU WILL NOT. That makes you a anti unionist and backstabber. That's all that matters.
 
cltrat said:
You running the show and all I’m kind of surprised he didn’t call you?
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One thing you need to start thinking about is your family health care being flushed down the toilet by Mr Baskett. Pay attention to what I'm about to say because the most likely scenario is a political one in which all of us LUS who have been around longer than you have seen before in 2003. The IAM decided not to bring a TA back to us, but instead, allowed the company to negotiate directly with the members by bringing their offer to us for a vote. The union never signed it, again it was not a TA. It was simply an offer that the union said sucked but then stood down and allowed the offer to be presented to the members for a vote. As awful as that 2003 offer was, I couldn't find one person who said they voted for I, but it passed by a strong margin.

I barely agree with you but I think we may both agree that if any offer comes out, it will get passed. Admittedly, I'm among about 2,000 TWU members who really don't have your health care ahead of their extra vacation, etc, but I'm fairly confident that any 'offer' will pass, and that means our LUS health care will be flushed down the drain.

The only thing, and I mean the ONLY thing, that is keeping your health care, is our side refusing to allow a vote. Now, maybe today's update that suggest a vote on the company proposal, won't manifest into one, but just keep in mind that this is a paved path and one that you ought to ask your boy Mr Baskett about.

Because, at the end of the day, if our morons allow a bull chit company proposal to come to the members for a vote, without it being a TA, it will be knifing us in the back. Nothing else is saving our health care other than the power of our union bosses saying no. I have a strong suspicion that the company got the union to move on that this week and consider waiving that power and washing its hands like Pontius Pilot and allowing the people to vote on a chit agreement. We don't have the numbers and it WON"T look good.
 
WeAAsles said:
Reality was I knew the Company was going to file for Bankruptcy the first time and actually thought it was going to be sooner. Reality is I’m a 53 Year old MAN and not some punk kid who needs “safe spaces” Actually it’s a little sniveler like you who thinks Daddy Bankruptcy Judge is going to hoit him again that maybe needs the night light in the Hallway?

Now stop bothering me with you little wah wah AA is going to go belly up sniveling chit. Cause you’re really gettin on my nerves with ya PSY crap now.
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Looks like I hit a raw nerve. You love to throw crap on other people but can't take it when some picks it up and throws it back on you.
 
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PIEDMONT784 said:
Weez...

Here is my prediction -- The company will stall all the way to section six. Trump will sign the National Right to Work Act before an agreement is ever reached. The RLA/Airline Unions will be in complete disarray as members "opt out" of dues" as the closed shop provisions evaporate, along with funding to maintain the institution.

Final result-- better than BK for the company, because they will see shareholder value, and approval, along with enthusiasm for more investment.

Timmy, of course will ultimately blame the Unions and Democrats, and take an (official) position within corporate communications...

>SPIT<
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btw, did i miss something? I dont believe there is any NRTW legislation that would affect the airlines. But if there was, then 95% wouldnt pay one red cent for the nasty awful anti unionist we are paying now.
 
Rusty Hilock said:
Looks like I hit a raw nerve. You love to throw crap on other people but can't take it when some picks it up and throws it back on you.
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You’re coming on here scared to death of another Bankruptcy and saying that I need a “safe space” is nuts. Besides I think you’re a Company shill. You came here very conveniently right after the Company started to put up their online crap and you’re trying to frighten the readers here into buying it.
 
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