American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[dfw gen]

Learn to read. I clearly stated AIRLINES.

A fine distinction. Kind of like the twu (in the name of the association) promised a vote. Of course we need plausible deniability.

No vote no peace.

 

[John Gotti]

A fine distinction. Kind of like the twu (in the name of the association) promised a vote. Of course we need plausible deniability.

No vote no peace.

That’s hysterical, what are you going to do?

How about no contract, no peace?

 

[737823]

That’s hysterical, what are you going to do?

How about no contract, no peace?

Why didn’t the membership get to vote on the Association?

Josh

 

[conehead777]

Does the link point the finger at some other guy not Sito for the Boeing re-vote?

The point of this is the members spoke with there no votes it should of stand and no other vote taken. I’m sure sito had conversations with buff , the main things is sito dose not need to be on our contract negotiations. I do not trust either iam/twu they will back stab there members for union dues. And Boeing in my honest opinion called there bluf. It would of cost Boeing to much money to retool the 777 line when they have the line already at pae field in Everett. If they moved it to South Carolina they would have to have bigger buildings and retool everything very expensive

 

[ALUS78]

when the arbitrator makes us take a pay cut, i hope he takes us back to pre-merger aa pay rates of $24+/hr and not lus $19+/hr.

$20.56

 

[ALUS78]

The point of this is the members spoke with there no votes it should of stand and no other vote taken. I’m sure sito had conversations with buff , the main things is sito dose not need to be on our contract negotiations. I do not trust either iam/twu they will back stab there members for union dues. And Boeing in my honest opinion called there bluf. It would of cost Boeing to much money to retool the 777 line when they have the line already at pae field in Everett. If they moved it to South Carolina they would have to have bigger buildings and retool everything very expensive

Doesnt matter if it was Sito or Buffy or the man on the moon in charge the union done,done it

 

[ALUS78]

what are you goin to give up if there is another oil spike?

The reality is that Parker gave other unions more cuz oil was only at $40.
He never would have opened up the pilots and flight attendant contracts with oil at $73.
And if 700 is right, Trump is goin to crash the economy in 6 months. Without a new contract, we will be first in line with arbitration to get big cuts. Thanks to weez and his handlers.

I love the Weez,his handlers not so much

 

[WeAAsles]

The point of this is the members spoke with there no votes it should of stand and no other vote taken. I’m sure sito had conversations with buff , the main things is sito dose not need to be on our contract negotiations. I do not trust either iam/twu they will back stab there members for union dues. And Boeing in my honest opinion called there bluf. It would of cost Boeing to much money to retool the 777 line when they have the line already at pae field in Everett. If they moved it to South Carolina they would have to have bigger buildings and retool everything very expensive

You know nothing whatsoever at all period about this man Sito Pantoja. You just have a weak mind and have allowed yourself to be “manipulated” that he’s some kind of Michael Myers “Boogeyman” out to slash you.

Because your mind has to believe that the enemy lies within the Union and you need a face to attach to your fantasy that face has become “SITO”

Remember that the poster you’re believing painting the picture has himself run POLITICALLY multiple times against the IAM incumbents including “SITO”

Why would you believe an individual on the outside looking in who wants that chair and along with it, the $$MONEY$$?

Keep an open mind Coney and don’t let yourself be so easily deceived and manipulated.

 

[ALUS78]

Where is the offer someone said he was going to post as he said he had it in his possession?

Look i dont think you work for AA,perhaps just a groupie or wannabe.butnif we could wait potentially a decade for a new contract we can wait a few months for tim to properly produce a fact checked video of the company's proposal.Even so I saw a proposal on jetnet the union said the company is not showing the fine print well perhaps the union can show us.We are paying them arent we

 

[Tim Nelson]

Learn to read. I clearly stated AIRLINES.

Sito already said, same with the airlines. You need to read. You need a copy of the letter he sent to the United Airline members explaining that they need to ratify or else it's off to arbitration and more leverage for the company? He actually said, a rejection would give MORE leverage to the company in closing of his letter.

If you are serious, I'll provide that letter. And I'll also provide the letter Lacy wrote to the railroaders. BTW, railroaders got hosed today as the arbitrator ruled 100% for the Railroad companies. You are anti union and will cause 'great pain' on the employees at American since the only possible exit is to allow the members to vote, or go to arbitration in 4 years.

 

[Tim Nelson]

You know nothing whatsoever at all period about this man Sito Pantoja. You just have a weak mind and have allowed yourself to be “manipulated” that he’s some kind of Michael Myers “Boogeyman” out to slash you.

Because your mind has to believe that the enemy lies within the Union and you need a face to attach to your fantasy that face has become “SITO”

Remember that the poster you’re believing painting the picture has himself run POLITICALLY multiple times against the IAM incumbents including “SITO”

Why would you believe an individual on the outside looking in who wants that chair and along with it, the $$MONEY$$?

Keep an open mind Coney and don’t let yourself be so easily deceived and manipulated.

You know Sito? Please tell us exactly what he did to further working people?
I'll leave my opinion out of it but I'll actually show you what he did, k?

1. United Airlines: Said "Landmark contract". Then put out a letter explaining that if it wasn't ratified that the company would have more leverage and arbitration would be really really bad. You want the documents? So, now, Mr Baskett now realizes he was wrong by recommending the United Disaster. You and him previously said I should bud out of United because that airline has nothing to do with us. Now, Uncle Jerry mentions the word "United" every 3rd sentence. Gary Peterson hates that word "United" as he mentioned in his infamous video. But, the company offer is considered FAIR by all independent parties if it equals or surpasses United. It does by 13%.

2. Agreed to give the company cross utilization at American instead of tying the merger to a JCBA. Now, we are on a collision course with arbitration in 4 years where we will get significantly less.

3. After District 19 (11,000 railroaders) didn't buy his BS and turned down an awful national contract, Sito shook his fist at them and plunged things into arbitration by agreement with the Railroads. The arbitrator decided today and ruled 100% with the Railroads and hosed the hell out of our members. Sito's son put on the economic case and blew it. You want the documents?

4. Agreed to a 12 page agreement with McGee Services, a new subsidiary created jointly by management and Sito to circumvent the minimum wage at Sea-Tac. Sito got 1,000 instant dues payers without a vote, and the company got a 12 page contract with no health care and $2 less than the minimums at Sea-Tac. And Sito placed the McGee Human Resources VP on the IAM's health and welfare plan.

5. Agreed to contract-out all Spirit jobs except FLL. The deal was so bad that Spriit employees realized they got boned and threatened to bolt so Sito gave them half off their dues. In return for Spirit management handing him the dues grab, he agreed to a 22 page contract that didn't negotiate health care, or anything else other than union security, and a 8 year wage scale that tops out at $15.

I will agree with you that he uses a lot of F bombs and talks like he is jimmy Hoffa, but the dude is only a management shill who is polluting American Labor.

 

[Kev3188]

You know nothing whatsoever at all period about this man Sito Pantoja. You just have a weak mind and have allowed yourself to be “manipulated” that he’s some kind of Michael Myers “Boogeyman” out to slash you.

Because your mind has to believe that the enemy lies within the Union and you need a face to attach to your fantasy that face has become “SITO”

Remember that the poster you’re believing painting the picture has himself run POLITICALLY multiple times against the IAM incumbents including “SITO”

Why would you believe an individual on the outside looking in who wants that chair and along with it, the $$MONEY$$?

Keep an open mind Coney and don’t let yourself be so easily deceived and manipulated.

Oh good! I thought I’d missed the virtue signaling.

 

[ALUS78]

You know nothing whatsoever at all period about this man Sito Pantoja. You just have a weak mind and have allowed yourself to be “manipulated” that he’s some kind of Michael Myers “Boogeyman” out to slash you.

Because your mind has to believe that the enemy lies within the Union and you need a face to attach to your fantasy that face has become “SITO”

Remember that the poster you’re believing painting the picture has himself run POLITICALLY multiple times against the IAM incumbents including “SITO”

Why would you believe an individual on the outside looking in who wants that chair and along with it, the $$MONEY$$?

Keep an open mind Coney and don’t let yourself be so easily deceived and manipulated.

Weez what do you know about Sito?Why dont you go to anyone who works at UA or US and ask about Sito you think youre going to get glowing reviews? Youll still be singing the same tune 4 years from now

 

[John Gotti]

Weez what do you know about Sito?Why dont you go to anyone who works at UA or US and ask about Sito you think youre going to get glowing reviews? Youll still be singing the same tune 4 years from now

If Sito is so bad what does it say about the person who has ran against him and the other leaders of the IAM who got trounced every single time?

770 to 20.

 

[WeAAsles]

Weez what do you know about Sito?Why dont you go to anyone who works at UA or US and ask about Sito you think youre going to get glowing reviews? Youll still be singing the same tune 4 years from now

Let me know when just one of you can provide me actual written and documented evidence that this guy “Dr (Sito) Evil” single handedly has been going out of his way to harm IAM Members?

Sure if enough people paint this guy out to be the “Boogeyman” that label will start to take root. Just look at Trump right Al.

Donald and Sito. Doctor’s Evil.