American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[bob@las-AA]

This should sum it up.

 

[bob@las-AA]

I think it’s in the deciphering of language where you draw most of your confusion.

I was hoping more that P. Rez or Crema would correct your mistakes over NYer and why I didn’t mention him as well. But he’s just as proficient, although you don’t seem to believe anyone anyway Bob. You’re very thick headed.

Yes, and for good reason.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Now if any one can impeach what Fidelity defines as a contribution, I'm eager to hear all of your rebuttals.

 

[WeAAsles]

Yes, and for good reason.

In the roughly over a decade or so that I’ve known NYer the one area I can’t recall arguing with him over was Mathematics. He’s proven himself to be pretty much consistently correct.

And on here I also have noticed Crema and Rez are more proficient than I am.

I have no Ego to capitulate in areas that I’m not as strong or informed as others Bob.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Although not devastating, this is a change not for the better, in the event any of you do stumble on enlightenment, and that I am correct in the interpretation, that this is not the enhancement I was looking for. It leaves the employee contributing more just to get a better match, I am a supporter of the 401K and it seems strange that the company would shower us with this very rich 9% of our earning match.

In the roughly over a decade or so that I’ve known NYer the one area I can’t recall arguing with him over was Mathematics. He’s proven himself to be pretty much consistently correct.

And on here I also have noticed Crema and Rez are more proficient than I am.

I have no Ego to capitulate in areas that I’m not as strong or informed as others Bob.

Well today is a red letter day, because he is wrong.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

I was hoping more that P. Rez or Crema would correct your mistakes over NYer

haha..

i'm no expert. i just understand the concept, even though it's broken in 2 parts; one part 5% and one part 4%.

if you can find a julia child video showing us that the stuffing is 5% bread crumbs and 4% onion + another 4% onion, maybe he'll understand.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Again, "In addition, the company would match employee contributions up to 4%" and contributions as defined by Fidelity, it is not, "in addition to your contribution we will give you a additional 4% of your gross." How come I stand alone on this, no one else is seeing this.

 

[WeAAsles]

Although not devastating, this is a change not for the better, in the event any of you do stumble on enlightenment, and that I am correct in the interpretation, that this is not the enhancement I was looking for. It leaves the employee contributing more just to get a better match, I am a supporter of the 401K and it seems strange that the company would shower us with this very rich 9% of our earning match.




Well today is a red letter day, because he is wrong.

Ok Bob so you think the Company made a grand announcement of their 401k improvement plan that equates to by your Math $4.70 a paycheck?

$4.70

Oy Vey.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

Well today is a red letter day, because he is wrong.

bob, look and see what the company currently matches on your 401k. is it 5 1/2% of your gross pay or 5 1/2% of your 5 1/2% contribution?

the other thing is if the offer was 4% of the contribution, why would the company use it to pad the total wage & benefit compensation package and why would the assoc. claim the number is artificially inflated?

 

[bob@las-AA]

haha..

i'm no expert. i just understand the concept, even though it's broken in 2 parts; one part 5% and one part 4%.

if you can find a julia child video showing us that the stuffing is 5% bread crumbs and 4% onion + another 4% onion, maybe he'll understand.

Don't make fun of Julia Child, I challenge you to use the definitions provided by Fidelity and come up with a different answer.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Ok Bob so you think the Company made a grand announcement of their 401k improvement plan that equates to by your Math $4.70 a paycheck?

$4.70

Oy Vey.

They want to sell it as a enhancement, but we are loosing a half a percent and to get that back we have to contribute a minimum of 12.5% out of our pockets.

 

[WeAAsles]

haha..

i'm no expert. i just understand the concept, even though it's broken in 2 parts; one part 5% and one part 4%.

if you can find a julia child video showing us that the stuffing is 5% bread crumbs and 4% onion + another 4% onion, maybe he'll understand.

Crema I’m pretty much a self confessing ignoramous when it comes to doing Math. Get me past figuring those wage increases and I’m dribbling from the mouth.

But seriously this is ridiculous.

 

[WeAAsles]

Don't make fun of Julia Child, I challenge you to use the definitions provided by Fidelity and come up with a different answer.

Bob you keep missing a word NYer shared with you, “salary”

“.In addition, the company would match employee contributions up to 4% of the team member’s salary, for a totalcompany contribution of up to 9%..."

 

[CremaDiLimone]

Don't make fun of Julia Child, I challenge you to use the definitions provided by Fidelity and come up with a different answer.

bob, if you look on the right side page of your fidelity example..read the 1st sentence.

doesn't it say your employer matches 5.5% of your eligible compensation??

your eligible compensation are your gross wages. 5.5% of your gross wages.

 

[NYer]

They want to sell it as a enhancement, but we are loosing a half a percent and to get that back we have to contribute a minimum of 12.5% out of our pockets.

The positive thing out of this is that you will be very happy when you get the real picture.