American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[ALUS78]

Absolutely!!
First just to get out of the pension the company would owe a huge amount just to freeze and secure the amount that the current members have in there for retirement.
Also the company knows that no matter how good a 401k is, that a certain percentage of employees won’t participate in it.
Now, if we can get a automatic contribution from the company for everyone, and one that makes since, then except for the amount of monies it would take to get out of the pension, it would then be the same cost to the company.

I thought the company contributed every pay day to our plan.I didn't know they held off thats how the other pensions became underfunded

 

[charlie Brown]

I thought the company contributed every pay day to our plan.I didn't know they held off thats how the other pensions became underfunded

They do contribute every pay, but that is not the current amount for everyone that currently is in it and has a certain amount that would be froze and to secure that amount for retirement. If that makes since.

 

[PIEDMONT784]

Absolutely!!
First just to get out of the pension the company would owe a huge amount just to freeze and secure the amount that the current members have in there for retirement.
Also the company knows that no matter how good a 401k is, that a certain percentage of employees won’t participate in it.
Now, if we can get a automatic contribution from the company for everyone, and one that makes since, then except for the amount of monies it would take to get out of the pension, it would then be the same cost to the company.

BINGO!

Good luck convincing the anti-IAM trolls though...

Their agenda supercedes the facts...

 

[WeAAsles]

BINGO!

Good luck convincing the anti-IAM trolls though...

Their agenda supercedes the facts...

Same with the anti-TWU trolls as well.

 

[charlie Brown]

BINGO!

Good luck convincing the anti-IAM trolls though...

Their agenda supercedes the facts...

I’m not really concerned about convincing them, that can’t be done. I just want to make sure people get some true info, Instead of info thats deliberately put out just to stir people up. Put out by posters that have stated that they could care less about their credibility. But yet, think people are ignorant enough to believe what is posted by them.

 

[swamt]

I’m not really concerned about convincing them, that can’t be done. I just want to make sure people get some true info, Instead of info thats deliberately put out just to stir people up. Put out by posters that have stated that they could care less about their credibility. But yet, think people are ignorant enough to believe what is posted by them.

And what is even worse than that is the "lack of" information kept from the members. The less they know, the harder it will be to take come T/A day. It would make the membership much much stronger and a heck of a lot more support for the NC if they were fully informed instead of being kept in the dark for soooo long. But, that's how these industrial unions like to do it, typical I tell you...

 

[WeAAsles]

I’m not really concerned about convincing them, that can’t be done. I just want to make sure people get some true info, Instead of info thats deliberately put out just to stir people up. Put out by posters that have stated that they could care less about their credibility. But yet, think people are ignorant enough to believe what is posted by them.

Giving it a shot at staying on topic for a little while here.

Anything interesting go on this past week CB?

 

[charlie Brown]

Giving it a shot at staying on topic for a little while here.

Anything interesting go on this past week CB?

Not from the negotiations standpoint. However I have just today set up with our twu counterpart to do some joint station visits around the system to inform and answer members questions. I don’t as of today have a list of the cities or dates, but I will get that out ASAP. I am speaking for rhe Fleet service group. I will be working on the cities and dates this coming week.

 

[WeAAsles]

Internet troll

In Internet slang, a troll (/troʊl, trɒl/) is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain.

 

[WeAAsles]

Not from the negotiations standpoint. However I have just today set up with our twu counterpart to do some joint station visits around the system to inform and answer members questions. I don’t as of today have a list of the cities or dates, but I will get that out ASAP. I am speaking for rhe Fleet service group. I will be working on the cities and dates this coming week.

I have heard of at least one TWU counterpart that you have been in touch with and I think it was an excellent idea. Maybe dispel some of those ridiculous rumors that have been floating around out there as well.

I hope you receive an invite to speak in my city but I’m not unfortunately optimistic that you will.

On the Negotiations it could have been expected this week where some don’t just take Labor Day week for Vacation but two weeks. (Company Negotiators)

 

[AANOTOK]

Giving it a shot at staying on topic for a little while here.

Anything interesting go on this past week CB?

Well, that didn't last long...what, one post.

 

[Racer X]

Not True!!

CB, if we are offered 40% into a 401k we would take that right over a pension wouldn’t we? Lol

 

[charlie Brown]

Internet troll

In Internet slang, a troll (/troʊl, trɒl/) is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] whether for
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I agree with the definition except the word upset. Other than that it’s pretty much spot on. But upset? Who gets upset? Most people that I know, use rhenpost for entertainment purposes only.

 

[AANOTOK]

CB is too professional to play the games or get upset.

 

[WeAAsles]

Well, that didn't last long...what, one post.

“
AANOTOKVeteran
#571536 minutes ago
If you guys are bored, head over to the Negotiations thread, they are playing Bingo over there. Already have a couple of winners. If your name is Troll though, sorry, you can't play. By the way, any talk about meetings and such is only rumor unless it's on official Association letter head and signed by the anonymous Executive Negotiations Committee.”

Read the definition again and tell me if this comment of yours doesn’t fit?

Have a very nice evening Sir.