American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[ALUS78]

Where is Weez? I wonder if he still thinks since oil breached $75 for the first time in years that it really doesn't matter as far as airlines go?

The new union will pledge to bring this nonsense to a vote with a thumbs up or thumbs down on the last best contract offer for fleet. Hopefully, we can wrap this up by Winter.

Weez has his eyes closed and fingers in his ears doesnt want to know anything about a new union he is loyal.Tim maybe you should offer him a job in the new union

 

[ALUS78]

Again?? Lmao

Rat i feel you shaking up here in the big apple

 

[Tim Nelson]

Again?? Lmao

+1

i'm not sure why you have coupled yourself to the higher oil = lost chance, assoc.'s fault, weaasles' fault.

pilots are coming up and they don't seem to believe (the ones i have spoken to) a card the company will pull out at negotiation time. the flip-side of the same card is that when oil is at $50/bbl, the company says we need to spend $$ on cap ex and have no money for you.

bottom line, the company doesn't want to share it's profits with us. profits at $5 billion a year or profits at $2 billion a year.

when the shale/frackers start rolling with improved infrastructure to increase flows to refineries, oil will go back down to where?

The company doesnt want to share its profits but its never about what we deserve, its about what we negotiate.
We have zero leverage other than a booming Trump economy. Zero other leverage since the company already got its holy grail cross utilization.

Our pilots also had a competitive leverage cuz of the delta pilots. We have zero competitive leverage cuz of United iam fleet.

So, the only possible scenario is less than what was offered last. There can be no other outcome.

 

[dfw gen]

http://www.fsb-ae.com/project/american-airlines-wide-body-heavy-maintenance-hangar/

just putting a roof over their head.

 

[WeAAsles]

UPS amts voted down the TA 59%

So I have to wonder who will win the prize for the longest amount of years to actually vote on and “accept” a deal from their Companies?

Leading the pack we have SWA AMFA at 6 years, then we have UPS IBT at 5 years and bringing up the rear but could be looking to make a sprint to join them AA TWU/ IAM Association coming up on 3 years.

Congratulations to the UAL IAM AMT’s who just “may” have been the smartest of the bunch to drop out of the race.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/inside...-proposal-union-mum-company-disappointed/amp/

 

[ALUS78]

http://www.fsb-ae.com/project/american-airlines-wide-body-heavy-maintenance-hangar/

just putting a roof over their head.

That's because tbe TWU is more interested in keeping Fleet service dumping the chitters than keeping maintenance in the US....SIgn your cards before you have nothing to sign

 

[Tim Nelson]

So I have to wonder who will win the prize for the longest amount of years to actually vote on and “accept” a deal from their Companies?

Leading the pack we have SWA AMFA at 6 years, then we have UPS IBT at 5 years and bringing up the rear but could be looking to make a sprint to join them AA TWU/ IAM Association coming up on 3 years.

Congratulations to the UAL IAM AMT’s who just “may” have been the smartest of the bunch to drop out of the race.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/inside...-proposal-union-mum-company-disappointed/amp/

ual iam amts?

 

[dfw gen]

So I have to wonder who will win the prize for the longest amount of years to actually vote on and “accept” a deal from their Companies?

Leading the pack we have SWA AMFA at 6 years, then we have UPS IBT at 5 years and bringing up the rear but could be looking to make a sprint to join them AA TWU/ IAM Association coming up on 3 years.

Congratulations to the UAL IAM AMT’s who just “may” have been the smartest of the bunch to drop out of the race.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/inside...-proposal-union-mum-company-disappointed/amp/

Were you born stupid and ignorant or is that a special talent you've developed over the years at your distinguished career at american airlines?

 

[WeAAsles]

Were you born stupid and ignorant or is that a special talent you've developed over the years at your distinguished career at american airlines?

I’m sorry it’s just that my thick skull can’t seem to grasp how truly special you AMT’s must be. Obviously you know your worth more than the Market and these Companies you keep continuing to spurn year after year, decade after decade.

I never realized that taking High School Shop (Aviation High) or going to a rinky dink Trade School paying between $6000 and $12,000 to get your A&P means you all should make more than Teachers, Nurses and even some Doctors and Lawyers.

I know, I know. You should get the same thing as Pilots. Yes I’ve read you guys say that before.

(Hey Association please don’t be an Ass and for Gods sake separate us from these clowns ASAP PLEASE. Please save us from their insanity)

Prima-donnas.

 

[ALUS78]

I’m sorry it’s just that my thick skull can’t seem to grasp how truly special you AMT’s must be. Obviously you know your worth more than the Market and these Companies you keep continuing to spurn year after year, decade after decade.

I never realized that taking High School Shop (Aviation High) or going to a rinky dink Trade School paying between $6000 and $12,000 to get your A&P means you all should make more than Teachers, Nurses and even some Doctors and Lawyers.

I know, I know. You should get the same thing as Pilots. Yes I’ve read you guys say that before.

(Hey Association please don’t be an Ass and for Gods sake separate us from these clowns ASAP PLEASE. Please save us from their insanity)

Prima-donnas.

Weez why dont you post the virtual tour of the Brazilian hangar

 

[WeAAsles]

Hey maybe AMP or AMFA need to get in there?

“UPS aircraft mechanics went for years without a raise, and we’ve worried long enough about the future of our medical care,” said aircraft mechanic Jack Chatburn who was on the bargaining committee. “We are eager to share the details of this top-notch agreement with our members and our families who will now have the top-notch pay and health benefits we’ve been fighting for. We believe the contract will be ratified swiftly.”

 

[Tim Nelson]

Hey maybe AMP or AMFA need to get in there?

“UPS aircraft mechanics went for years without a raise, and we’ve worried long enough about the future of our medical care,” said aircraft mechanic Jack Chatburn who was on the bargaining committee. “We are eager to share the details of this top-notch agreement with our members and our families who will now have the top-notch pay and health benefits we’ve been fighting for. We believe the contract will be ratified swiftly.”

Weez, if 700 is right, and Trump tanks the economy, how much of a pay cut do you think Uncle Jerry will ask for?

 

[Timid Weak Union]

I’m sorry it’s just that my thick skull can’t seem to grasp how truly special you AMT’s must be. Obviously you know your worth more than the Market and these Companies you keep continuing to spurn year after year, decade after decade.

I never realized that taking High School Shop (Aviation High) or going to a rinky dink Trade School paying between $6000 and $12,000 to get your A&P means you all should make more than Teachers, Nurses and even some Doctors and Lawyers.

I know, I know. You should get the same thing as Pilots. Yes I’ve read you guys say that before.

(Hey Association please don’t be an Ass and for Gods sake separate us from these clowns ASAP PLEASE. Please save us from their insanity)

Prima-donnas.

Back under the bridge TROLL!!!!

 

[WeAAsles]

Back under the bridge TROLL!!!!

Go get a real education you High School Shop class dope.

 

[1986Mekanic]

I think the school and licensing cost a bit more then that in 1980 when I obtained my certs. Well, then at that time airlines were in a pretty severe downturn so the military was the only option for awhile which helped with getting heavy experience which airlines required at the time. Then of course theres working mid nights and holidays and weekends to build seniorty.

I know some folks sometimes simplify and minimize the process. I dont know why but, it's a bit hurtfull.... just saying?