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I’m still waiting for you to post on how the district by laws can be changed. Come on Timmy!!!The members want to know!!
 
charlie Brown said:
No!! Like I said bro. You answer the questions also. As much as you have deceived this membership, you tell them how the by laws are changed, and that the district officers can’t change them. You tell everyone on here and I’ll answer your questions. Again, you may think you control things, but like I have said in the past! Your a legend in your own mind. Be honest for once, and tell the membership how the by laws are changed. I’ll wait!!!
Anyways, I can pull up a past post that you stated I was making 160,000 a year. Are you now stating that wasn’t true??
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Are you drunk? Look, I'm not the slightest interested in any "Timmy" talk. Not interested in debate.
Are you going to answer how much you make now and how much you will make after the bylaw passes? The members wanna know.
 
Tim Nelson said:
Are you drunk? Look, I'm not the slightest interested in any "Timmy" talk. Not interested in debate.
Are you going to answer how much you make now and how much you will make after the bylaw passes? The members wanna know.
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Haha
I do have a drink every now and then, but never have been a big drinker. Hangs on me too much the next day.
And I hope everyone that reads here is seeing that you will not answer any questions because you dont want to admit how you deceive the membership.
I told you. You don’t control things like you think you do. Read my earlier post. I made a deal with you that I would answer your questions about a raise if you would post on how the district by laws are changed. Because that’s where our salaries are posted.
So tell everyone how there is no way a district officer can vote thierselfs a pay raise. And besides, you already post on here in the past that I make 160,000 a Year. That’s before this proposed raise. Are you going to admit you were lying?? Come on Timmy, the members want to know.
 
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charlie Brown said:
Haha
I do have a drink every now and then, but never have been a big drinker. Hangs on me too much the next day.
And I hope everyone that reads here is seeing that you will not answer any questions because you dont want to admit how you deceive the membership.
I told you. You don’t control things like you think you do. Read my earlier post. I made a deal with you that I would answer your questions about a raise if you would post on how the district by laws are changed. Because that’s where our salaries are posted.
So tell everyone how there is no way a district officer can vote thierselfs a pay raise. And besides, you already post on here in the past that I make 160,000 a Year. That’s before this proposed raise. Are you going to admit you were lying?? Come on Timmy, the members want to know.
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Im going to bed. I never made any deal with you. Obviously, you arent going to tell us how much your salary is and how much it is going to be. End of story. Good night.
 
Ok Timmy I gotta go for now. I’m so full of eating crow I’m sick at my stomach.
Just FYI, I have a very busy week, so probably won’t be able to get on here for awhile, just in case you think I’m avoiding you.
Hopefully though I can see your post on how the district by laws are changed, and how district officers can not vote for a raise. . And also if you were lying about my salary and how much I was making.
By the way, I let one of your puppets in clt see my w2 from last year just to prove who was blowing smoke.
Again, you could be a big asset to the membership if you really wanted to be. But somehow I don’t think that’s your goal. Goodnight.
 
Tim Nelson said:
No. Just No. You don't understand because you simply have not been educated about Labor, and its issues and how negotiations go. The United agreement will cost us our LUS health care. 100% guaranteed since we gave up our leverage, through the merger, by giving up cross utilization. You gloss over this because you have no idea how this benefitted the company. We might have had a chance to keep LUS insurance if we held back on the company bait of cross utilizations without finishing the JCBA.

And you have it backwards, the union did not "Hold out", it rolled over because the cross utilization deal was a 'dues grab' by the TWU. If the union did in fact hold firm like you said, then we would have already had a much better JCBA already.

And the union had a second chance when Uncle Jerry offered the same scope we have today, including CLT catering. But it was a take it or leave it, and Uncle Jerry made this clear. Sito F'd it all up and wanted to negotiate further, so Jerry (from what I heard) shook his head and laughed hysterically and pulled the offer and said you will never see this again. GAME OVER!

So, now, we either delay the last best offer and burn daylight and we lose $13,000 a year, or we accept the offer and send it to a vote. There really isn't any honor at this point in not bringing the last offer to the members.
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Kev3188 said:
Holy sh*t, that was a lot of deflecting from Tim
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Can you please provide the readers a link we can read where you lost your LUS IAM Medical costs that I believe you are paying RIGHT NOW?

In this post you say that we’re losing $13,000 per year (individuals topped out I suppose) but in your other post that I questioned you say we’re going to take “massive concessions”

Again how do you quantify “massive concessions”?

What did our Negotiators agree to that you believe are “MASSIVE concessions” and where can we read this? Members want to know?
 
WeAAsles said:
Can you please provide the readers a link we can read where you lost your LUS IAM Medical costs that I believe you are paying RIGHT NOW?

In this post you say that we’re losing $13,000 per year (individuals topped out I suppose) but in your other post that I questioned you say we’re going to take “massive concessions”

Again how do you quantify “massive concessions”?

What did our Negotiators agree to that you believe are “MASSIVE concessions” and where can we read this? Members want to know?
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due to the "dues grab for cross utilization" and not taking the last offer, the massive concessions for fleet is lost scope and lost medical on the lus side. As far as LAA, you guys already gave everything up so, thanks to delta, you guys will come out much better, in perspective, 10% above United in ttl contractual cost.
 
Tim Nelson said:
due to the "dues grab for cross utilization" and not taking the last offer, the massive concessions for fleet is lost scope and lost medical on the lus side. As far as LAA, you guys already gave everything up so, thanks to delta, you guys will come out much better, in perspective, 10% above United in ttl contractual cost.
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There never was a last offer Tim. There were incomplete online offers made directly to the Membership but those offers were never formally made to our Negotiators.

But anyway let’s ride with this. What Scope concessions on the LUS side have been agreed to? I haven’t heard anyone say to me that SCOPE has been agreed to? But I guess in “your own mind” it has.

There are no TA’s on Scope yet Tim.

And I’m sorry but what you call a dues grab I call earning almost $10.00 more per hour since AA first filed for Bankruptcy which is an over 40% pay raise (WOW DAMN 40%)

And you’ve gotten an around 50% raise since AA first filed for Bankruptcy. (WOW DAMN 50%)

I doubt you would find one idiot (Well maybe a few idiots) who would give back those raises to regain the supposed strength of cross utilization.

Tim you do know that LAA and LUS didn’t overlap much and it was why the Creditors loved the idea of the merger. And LUS Rampers are still separated here so I don’t know what you’re talking about? Have they put you in the mix in ORD yet? No.

Tim are you a voting member of the IAM or did you voluntarily concede that right?
 
dvlhog212 said:
Happy New Year ya filthy animals! Heres to a 2019 of more stalling, lies and waiting for that promised JCBA.
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Happy New Year. At least here in MIA Change has officially begun.

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Kev3188 said:
Of course not. The one immediately before it was bad enough that their CEO was the one who called for early openers.
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that's also my narrative of the airline workers' story. united was the first that raised the wages bar. munoz, ala bernie sanders. delta followed..

aa had no choice. $4/hr discrepancy at fleet level AND no profit sharing?
 
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