American Airlines Group Reports Highest Quarterly Profit In Company History

[WorldTraveler]

Funny how one can say SEA is the fastest growing hub in DL's network and it's OK - however if AA says NYC is it's fastest growing hub it's because of underperformance

except based on current schedules for this month, AA/US is smaller at JFK than it was a year ago. MIA is probably AA's fastest growing hub in terms of seats added while CLT is shrinking the most.

The comments about AA at JFK probably referred to profitability which were driven by the replacement of the 762s with 321a on the transcons and the increase in the yields in the transcons as capacity was removed.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

The comments about AA at JFK probably referred to profitability which were driven by the replacement of the 762s with 321a on the transcons and the increase in the yields in the transcons as capacity was removed.

 

if you have data to show ... ... ...  plz be sure and share it.

 

[WorldTraveler]

schedule data is fairly public.

AA's capacity for the month is down 1% from JFK. average fares on the transcons have been published multiple times here by several users.

DOT data is publicly available and contains that information; the 1st quarter of 2015 should be released by the DOT within the next few weeks.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

So, roughly translated what you're saying is that you really don't know what Kirby meant about AA's NYC performance being the best of AAs hubs, but nevertheless you hope to cover that up by word count.
Got it.

 

[WorldTraveler]

Kirby didn't say specifically what he meant. You and others have jumped to conclusions that aren't supported by facts.

JFK continues to shrink for AA.

Numerous people including FWAAA have noted AA's improving yields and lower airplane costs because of the 321 strategy.

AA's capacity reduction in JFK is largely driven by the transcons; other carriers have replaced that capacity and taken a larger share of the market - and yet AA has improved its financnial performance in those markets.

those are obvious facts.

If you can get Kirby to tell you specifically what he meant (he won't) then let us know.

It certainly doesn't mean that AA is growing at JFK. It isn't and that is verifiable. AA's growth hub is MIA while CLT is where it is pulling down the most capacity.

 

[700UW]

How many times are you going to repeat your misinformation?
 
Others have posted and corrected you that with the additional flights that AA added it wasnt a loss in capacity.
 
CLT lost a few seasonal European flights and SA, guess you missed the part where they have added new destinations from CLT and a second LHR flight.  CLT is the second largest hub in the new AA only DFW is larger.

Dont let the facts get in your way.

 

[WorldTraveler]

How many times are you going to repeat your misinformation?
 
Others have posted and corrected you that with the additional flights that AA added it wasnt a loss in capacity.
 
CLT lost a few seasonal European flights and SA, guess you missed the part where they have added new destinations from CLT and a second LHR flight.  CLT is the second largest hub in the new AA only DFW is larger.
Dont let the facts get in your way.

 
feel free to tell AA that they have misfiled their schedules with the OAG.
 
AA/US' schedules in CLT show the greatest percentage reduction of their hubs.
 
 

 

[700UW]

 
feel free to tell AA that they have misfiled their schedules with the OAG.
 
AA/US' schedules in CLT show the greatest percentage reduction of their hubs.
 
 
 
except that AA is a shrinking market for AA, just like it has been for years.
 
Just because AA is shrinking doesn't mean that they aren't more profitable... no one ever said those two things can't both be true.
 
the reason why the yield improvement is as high as it is is because AA is walking away from large chunks of the transcon market wihch other carriers can profitably serve.
 
laugh all you want.... AA is shrinking and becoming more profitable in NYC.  Other carriers are growing and becoming more profitable. 

Let me clarify, the capacity I was talking about is JFK-LAX, forgot to include that, there are more flights when they switched from the 762 to the 321T.
 
CLT has lost some seasonal European flights, and the Brazil flights, it has been adding flights, but it doesnt fit your narrative, now does it?
 
So AA is a shrinking market for AA?

Boy that makes a lot of sense, not!

 

[WorldTraveler]

It's funny that you can forget to use a negative (not) in a sentence that includes supersede but you jump all over someone else when they do the same.

yes, federal law DOES supersede local practice. I'm glad you confirmed it.

Meanwhile, CLT is a shrinking market for AA/US. not only does AA/US have half of the number of seats it once had to FRA but it also has a whole lot less seats to a number of destinations thruout the SE including DAB, GPT, FLO, MGM, HHH - and BDA.

You didn't bother to count all of those reductions but they absolutely took place

instead of your kneejerk reaction to defend CLT, how about you actually deal with the facts which are that AA/US is shrinking CLT little by little and it is not just in longhaul markets.

even with additional seats to markets like MAD, DUB, GRR, FWA, and ABQ, AA/US at CLT is still smaller than it was a year ago.

the only epic temper tantrums that are taking place on this forum are those who can't admit that the very things I said would be true about the AA/US merger are taking place -more competition focused on AA/US' top markets, higher CASM relative to AA's peers, and more debt and lower employee salaries relative to AA's competitors.

 

[commavia]

Ah, but let us not forgot the thing that many of us said about the AA/US merger that is also taking place - now, with a competitive cost structure and network, AA is more profitable than Delta.  Some people always seem to forget that one!
 
Notably, though, some on Wall St haven't forgotten it, and predict this trend will continue:
 
"However, recent operating results and management commentary continue to provide us with confidence in the company’s ability generate the highest 2015 pre-tax margins, and earnings among the legacy carriers."

 

[WorldTraveler]

even Doug Parker recognizes that AA is 5 years behind. You are the only one that seems to think that AA is on some pedestal that it is not.

If AA had to account for taxes and pay profit sharing, it would be less profitable than DL.

AAL stock shed 7% on Friday after its earnings announcement. But, hey, what do investors that own billions of dollars of stock know that you don't?

 

[commavia]

I don't think AA is on a pedestal, but I don't think AA is in the gutter, either.  But from certain individuals' biased perspectives, I could understand how these could be viewed as the only two binary, black-and-white options rather than the more realistic, gray area in between - for both AA and Delta.
 
But since we're on the subject of investors better-informed than internet forum posters, I wonder what Doug Parker knows that you don't, considering that he said this on Friday:
 
“[AA's is] an undervalued stock, so we bought a lot of it ... if [the market] continues to have this view, it’ll give us the opportunity to purchase more.”
 
Curious that the man singularly charged - by legally-enforceable fiduciary responsibility - with creating shareholder value believes AA's stock is undervalued and has large upside.  Fascinating.

 

[WorldTraveler]

I didn't say AA is in the gutter.

Parker says that AA isn't in the same position as DL and recognizes that DL has had a 5 year headstart to achieve its strategic objectives.

AA is still merging. UA is still sorting out its merger. DL is acquiring stakes in other carriers.

AA isn't paying taxes or profit sharing. DL reported a higher gross operating margin.

AA has $600 million in uncumbered cash in Venezuela which AA highlights with EVERY earnings report.

Yes, there is gray... but there is also black and white cmoparisons that can be made. Parker knows it which is why he said that AA is not where DL is as a result of DL's merger which is now almost 6 years old. .

 

[commavia]

Indeed - AA has challenges.  And so does Delta.  Reality.

 

[swamt]

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