Pilfering 101If AA was serious about filing they would
find a way to burn a couple of billions fast and do it.
I've been trying to tell these people there have been changes, however untested. There have been legitimate Chapter 11 filings since 31 Oct. 2005 but no strategic filings, as were the Delta/Northworst/United filings BEFORE the law change. I have my doubts now that this group wants to be the test case re: what happens to a greedy corporation and its officers when filing for a tactical advantage over its workers in bankruptcy.Even though the amount would make a negligible difference in the company's financial situation, if the executives would make an offer to forego all bonusses, stock options, and salary for even one year, it would make a difference symbolically. (That is, if it's not too late for such a gesture.) And, don't give me the crap that "their contracts require that they be paid the bonusses and stock options, etc." Jeff Smisek at Continental showed the way to do it. He just publicly announced that he would not even be drawing base salary until the airline returned to profitability.
Arpey and company have the moral and ethical stature of a toadstool. They are once again asking for enormous sacrifice on the part of the employees without even a suggestion that they might do some sacrificing also. Bring on bankruptcy. The law has changed since US Airways and the others raped their employees. It won't be so cut and dried for AMR to just abrogate the contracts and impose substandard wages. And, if they get forced into Ch. 7 (I'm surprised it hasn't happened before now), so be it. They've been mouthing for years that industry capacity needs to be cut. I say don't give a dime.
The part I really like about the changes to the bankruptcy law relates to "executive retention bonusses." They can no longer just claim that the execs have offers from other companies. They have to produce the offers in writing for the court. Even then, the judge is not required to approve the retention bonusses. He can just say, "well, their executive efforts so far have landed the company in my court. Let them take the other offer."
And, don't give me the crap that "their contracts require that they be paid the bonusses and stock options, etc." Jeff Smisek at Continental showed the way to do it. He just publicly announced that he would not even be drawing base salary until the airline returned to profitability.
That's what I remember reading, also - it was reported somewhere. More low-life lying trash.Jim,
You probably didn't read the fine print. Sure he made that jesture and didn't take any salary, bonuses, etc until the airline was profitable. The caveat was, all those bonuses, stock option salary, etc. were put into an escrow account and as soon as the airline turned profitable............. Big Pay Day.
Jim
That's what I remember reading, also - it was reported somewhere. More low-life lying trash.
The law has changed since US Airways and the others raped their employees. It won't be so cut and dried for AMR to just abrogate the contracts and impose substandard wages. And, if they get forced into Ch. 7 (I'm surprised it hasn't happened before now), so be it. They've been mouthing for years that industry capacity needs to be cut. I say don't give a dime.
The part I really like about the changes to the bankruptcy law relates to "executive retention bonusses." They can no longer just claim that the execs have offers from other companies. They have to produce the offers in writing for the court. Even then, the judge is not required to approve the retention bonusses. He can just say, "well, their executive efforts so far have landed the company in my court. Let them take the other offer."
People forget that Carty also gave up his salary in 2001. No escrows, no loopholes. Just gave it up.
Lot of good it did him, eh?
How about his Chaufeur and clothing allowance?People forget that Carty also gave up his salary in 2001. No escrows, no loopholes. Just gave it up.
Lot of good it did him, eh?
How about his Chaufeur and clothing allowance?
Frank Szabo said:BTW, E, there is a huge difference between any lowlife executive-type millionaire scum giving up money they probably wouldn't notice being gone as opposed to lying with impunity to workers getting them to give up a large percentage of their pay to "keep the company out of bankruptcy".