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Need I remind you however, that over 200 years ago we tried to impress upon you the benefits of remaining under the monarchy? 😉 If so, you would not have to bother with such inconveniences...

Hey, you can't blame me. Though I came to the realization late, I did come...Today, I am a Divine Right Monarchist, and quite frankly I think that the UK would do well to go back to that position. You put one person in charge. They rule "by the Grace of God." If they screw up, you chop off their head, and hire their cousin from Germany. It worked beautifully in the UK for centuries. :lol:

It wasn't until Parliament got the upper hand on the young Queen Victoria about 1835 that you started losing the empire (though through inertia it continued to grow for some time). The effects of all that democracy did not really start to kick in until Edward VII ascended to the throne.

How I came to be a DRM? It has become obvious to me that the American people are not ready for self-government. When I look at whom we elect to public office (at all levels), I realize we should not be allowed to come within 100 yards of a ballot.

When the Greeks invented democracy, they assumed a limited, educated electorate. Do you think it not telling that more people voted in the last American Idol finals than voted in the last Presidential election? :shock:

One of the best political cartoons I've seen recently recreates the famous painting of the first Constitutional Convention. One of the characters is saying, "I still think we should put in some protection in case the people elect a complete idiot to the Presidency."
 
Thank you Ralph. I was indeed looking for something a little deeper than a rehash of what Murdoch puts up on your Fox Opinion Channel (dare I even call it news???). At least here on this side of the pond he sports it up on Page 3 with a bird or two 😉

You were correct about some not making it over the hurdle of the thread's sub-title!

Jim, good knowledge about us bringing a Hannoverian over to take up the monarchial duties. Had I been around I would have volunteered for the duty but alas I missed by chance by a couple of centuries 🙂
Somthing to be said about primogeniture no? Someone has to be in charge!

As to the question, frankly I think that world market events are moving too swiftly and powerfully to be much influenced by who is your president or who is my prime minister. Great women and men do indeed change and influence history, but so do great events and movements and we are in the middle of the world's economies starting to do things correctly and the air industry will be one part of that.

Cheers
 
I agree about the inability of the President or the PM to do much for/against the airlines in the short time, but for a slightly different reason. Granted, events are going to move swiftly (in the great scheme of things), but even if they were moving more slowly, too many people have a sadly mistaken view of the true power of the U.S. President and/or the British Prime Minister.

Both countries are democracies, not dictatorships. There is very little that either of those two officeholders can accomplish by fiat. Their strength lies more in their possession of the bully pulpit than in their Constitutional power to strongarm anyone--Congress and Parliament in particular. Beating the airlines or the oil companies or the oil producers into submission would be infinitely easier than getting a majority of either Legislature to concur in a course of action. :lol: Invading Iraq is one thing. Invading Congress would mean that the President would lose his standing invitation to all the best Georgetown parties. It would be a definite social faux pas. :shock:

Back to your requested topic...
Let me preface my remarks by noting that it is hard to kill an airline. Not impossible, but definitely difficult. Just ponder how many years it took to put Pan Am out of its misery. Or Eastern. Or many of the others who have gone to glory. There always seems to be someone (a la Lorenzo or Icahn) with more money than sense who believes he can succeed where others have failed in the airline business. Their ideas rarely include treating the employees right and pricing the product fairly (a la WN), and their ideas rarely succeed in the long run.

I agree that events are moving rapidly. Who in their right mind would have predicted that jet fuel would double in price (for all practical purposes) in a year? None of the major U.S. airlines (with the exception of WN) can survive long-term without some relief from these backbreaking prices. I make that statement simply because I do not believe that any of them has the courage to price their product according to their costs, and let the chips fall where they may.

I think all the majors--AA, DL, NW, UA, LCC, CO (in no particular order)--are hoping that one or more of the others will go into bankruptcy or cease operation before they have to take action to truly address the cost issue. Though all are taking some steps to reduce capacity, I think it probably too little, too late. Last man standing may be a fun schoolyard game, but as a business tactic? Questionable, don't you think?

Let's look at AA, my airline, as an example of just how fast things are moving. On April 16th, AMR issued a financial advisory that they planned to cut domestic capacity 4.6% in the 4th quarter of 2008. On May 21st, 1 month and 5 days later, we announced that the domestic capacity cut would be 11-12%--over double in a month. That announcement occurred at a time when oil was slightly under $130/bbl. Oil closed today at almost $141/bbl, and went above $143/bbl for a short time today. Does anyone see a trend emerging?

The announcement on May 21st specified 40-45 MD80s and 6 A300s would be grounded. The number of A300s has already been increased to 10. Now, before anyone points out that some of those may be a/c that were already grounded for mechanical reasons...deciding not to repair the plane is the same as taking it out of service once repaired. I don't think that we have heard the last word on the number of MD80s, either--particularly if oil continues to skyrocket in price.

I use the term, skyrocket, advisedly. For those old enough to remember, there was a period in the 80's when oil stayed in the range of $15-$18/bbl for a number of years. I remember my boss at Texaco moaning that "if we could just get oil up to $20/bbl, we might survive." And, that was at a time when Texaco was the 3rd largest U.S. oil company with revenues of only $34 billion/year and net profits of just a few billion/year.

Do I think AMR will survive? Yes, there is something to being the 2000-lb gorilla. Will I still have a job? Probably not. I am far enough down on the seniority list that being furloughed again is a real possibility at this point. If the situation gets desperate and Congress relaxes the foreign ownership restrictions, look for AMR to become the U.S. branch of BA.

This is not to say that a trip through the bankruptcy courts is out of the question for AMR. I don't think it will be over the pension plans, as many seem to think. As I posted in another thread today, I think it will take the nature of "Oh please Mr. Bankruptcy Court. Save us from the greedy and unreasonable unions who want to kill us. Smite their contracts. Allow us to institute pay cuts and work rule changes as we see fit. By the way, before we adjourn for lunch, could you just sign that little piece of paper authorizing the executive golden parachutes. Thanks ever so." :lol:

Do I think all the others will survive? No. The DAL/NW merger is a canny move. They each bring routes to the table that the other would have to make major capital expenditures to gain.
CO, the best managed U.S. airline after WN, will survive, but I think even they are going to have to make more drastic cuts in the short term.

I think the survival of UA and/or LCC is questionable. Both have little leverage in the credit markets. Relaxation of foreign ownership requirements means UA becomes the U.S. branch of LH.

That being said, I don't think employees at AA or UA will be happy with the outcome. UA employees will come up against the cool Teutonic efficiency that will mean job cuts and working harder and more productively than most of us at U.S. airlines are used to. I hear through some of my other European sources that the BA unions are looking with glee at the possibility of doing to AA unions what those unions did to TWA employees. European unions are real hard core unions compared to U.S. unions.

LCC is the most likely to fail, in my opinion. Their front-line employees are some of the best. I have some close friends who work for LCC. One of them, a f/a, just said to me the other night that he wished it would just be over, and he could move on to something else. As it is, he has too many years invested (he was originally with Piedmont) to walk away now just in case a miracle occurs and they pull out of this nosedive.

I stand in awe of the repeated mistakes of LCC's upper management. That they can control the BOD and keep their jobs is astounding. The often contemptuous treatment of their frequent flyers--again, by management, not the frontline; their decisions to go the cattle car route with reducing F/C and F/C amenities in favor of more seats in the back; the failure to do repairs to parts of the a/c visible to customers--such as taking the door off an OH bin and putting masking tape over the opening rather than replacing the $5 latch; their insistence that they are a LCC when their pricing is in the stratosphere on some routes. Most of all, their complacency toward the labor strife created by a failure to merge the major unions after almost 3 years. Just read some of the threads on the US Airways forum about labor issues if you don't believe me. All of this does not make for a secure future.

I don't see anyone stepping up to the plate for LCC with rescue financing. Why would anyone in their right mind loan money to a company that has been in bankruptcy 3 times before--1 AWA, 2 US Airways pre-merger--and whose labor unions are at each others throats instead of going after the company? You can give LCC management this...they seem to have successfully implemented a divide and conquer approach to their labor force.

I have seen other predictions on the boards that United will be back in Ch. 11 by 01DEC. In fact, one United employee disagreed. He seems to think that if bankruptcy occurs again, it will be Chapter 7. I don't agree. I think UA or AMR filing for bankruptcy would be sufficient impetus for Congress to relax foreign ownership restrictions in order to get the LH and BA financing that would be available. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. And, the bigger the wheel and the louder the squeak, the quicker the grease is applied.

Several of the regionals, like Frontier and Spirit, are in trouble. Will they survive? Depends on what they and their employees are willing to do. The demise of some of the regionals might well take some of the pressure off of the majors, but only in the short-term. Unless we get a break on fuel prices OR we are able to raise ticket prices accordingly, air travel will once again become a luxury as it once was, not a necessity because the laws of evolution--i.e., survival of the fittest--will be applied and there will be a drastic, unwanted reduction in domestic capacity.

Maybe, the various Federal and state agencies will finally get serious about high speed land transportation, such as the Japanese bullet trains or the TGVs in Europe. The problem with those is that the U.S. population is not dense enough in most places to support that kind of investment. You have to travel through a great deal of practically deserted territory to move a train from, say, Dallas to Los Angeles. It would be more of a "have-to" in order to move people around the country than something that makes real economic sense as in Europe and Japan.
 
Jim,

What a well thought out and tightly reasoned response. That shows the potential for forums such as these where one can posit views and lay out arguments in an orderly and constructive manner. Well done! Also you adhered to the spirit of the question in which I was just trying to solicit some amatuer tea-leaf reading so if your prognostications do not come true, then you will not be blindfolded and given a last smoke before the firing squad commences its task 🙂

One remark in particular caught my eye - that of foreign ownership in the U.S. market. This raises at least two important questions. The first of course is whether capital would be so much cheaper than what could awash ashore from foreign ports? In other words would for example LH provide less expensive money than what is available domestically? If so how? I understand the additional supply would drop the price if demand remained fixed, but how far along that curve would we really move and would it be worth the trouble to petition your Congress to change the laws?

The second is that is this not a de facto admission of the inablility of U.S. managment teams to properly manage their assets? I am not saying this is the case, but only ask the question what foreigners could do better? What expertise do they have that is not already present?

Am I missing something with my thoughts on this? I could understand needing to go a beggaring outside the shores if the cost of capital was significantly less expensive and I can understand if the management skills were so much better. Is this really the case? Are there other factors involved?

Good synopsis on your part. I wish Cosmo and some others had also added their voices.

Btw, you seem to know quite a bit about our Monarchy. A trivia question for you then...Do you know why no sovereign has taken the name John since many a year? Winning prize is a ticket to hear the next Labour party conference speakers. zzzzzzz!
 
first things first...
I'm not sure why King John is not a favorite name among English monarchs other than the fact that the original King John (youngest of Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine) was not a nice guy. For those of you who do not recognize these names, go rent the wonderful movie, The Lion in Winter.

Henry intended for John to go into the clergy; so, bestowed upon him no legacy of land. In fact, his nickname for John was Sans Terre (without land), or in the English, Lackland. Another reason he was called Lackland was he lost the Aquitaine, the huge territory in France that his mother brought with her as her dowry.

King John is best known as the wicked king of the Robin Hood legend. King John did exist. Robin Hood? Maybe, maybe not. John was also the English king who signed the Magna Carta; though the legend that he was illiterate and could only place his seal on the document is just that--legend.

There's more. Shall I go on? (Did I mention that I majored in English Literature at the undergraduate level and love to read English history as a pastime? 🙄 )

Now, back to whither thou goest oh airline industry...

I was not perhaps not clear in my discussion of possible foreign investment in the airlines. Due to the chaos in U.S. money markets owing to the recent subprime mortgage debacles, all lending institutions are (to put it mildly) skittish. I would guess that they are particularly averse to putting money into U.S. airlines with the possible exception of Southwest. The management of the majors have not covered themselves in glory over the past few years.

Even the (in some quarters) revered Bob Crandall said that if you were a billionaire desiring to become a millionaire then put your money in airline stocks.

What I meant to say was that if push comes to shove and LH and BA turn out to be the only sources of money for UA and AA, then I think that Congress would repeal the prohibitions on foreign investment rather than see either of the two largest legacies go under. I'm not sure the cost of the funds would even enter into the discussion. It would simply be "if that is the only source then go for it."

Nor would it be a discussion of who could handle the money better--U.S. or European managers of same. Though, could a European do worse than what has been demonstrated by U.S. management? (By the way I am trying to be careful to use the term U.S. rather than American as a generic term because we are discussing American Airlines in particular, and I don't wish to appear to be zeroing in on AMR's management when I mean ALL U.S. legacy carriers.)
 
Full marks Jim! King John was the sovereign who did indeed put his mark to the Magna Carta. He was not considered a good monarch (rather hapless in fact) and thus no ruler since then has adopted the name. There may be other factors involved, but since I had to spend most of my primary education years in the headmasters office on account of my bad behavior, I may have missed a few details here and there 🙂

Interesting remarks about the credit crunch. When it first started to make waves, U.S. damage control was telling those of us on the east side of the water that it was only a very small percentage of the U.S. financial market. I am not sure what the true percentage is, but it must have been enough to raise some concern...

So it indeed sounds as if the LH or BA monies would come at a cheaper price and thus be the main impetus for the relaxation of foreign ownership rules (may we call them FOR for less typing?). Will be interesting to watch.
 
Interesting remarks about the credit crunch. When it first started to make waves, U.S. damage control was telling those of us on the east side of the water that it was only a very small percentage of the U.S. financial market. I am not sure what the true percentage is, but it must have been enough to raise some concern...

So it indeed sounds as if the LH or BA monies would come at a cheaper price and thus be the main impetus for the relaxation of foreign ownership rules (may we call them FOR for less typing?). Will be interesting to watch.

Well, every time the talking heads start the "no need to panic, all is well, the crisis has passed" mantra, another article such as the link below crops up. I hope the link works. It's to an article in this morning St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Just in case, I am posting a quote from the article.

Mortgage Finance Scare pushes S&P into bear territory

"But investors remain concerned about the financial sector. Mortgage finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac fell sharply because of continued doubts about their access to financing. Shares in the two government-chartered companies have struggled of late on worries that they will be forced to sell more new shares than anticipated to compensate for losses from the housing slump.

Fannie shares fell more than 10 percent and Freddie shares dropped more than 20 percent. Investment banks were also weak, with Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. the steepest decliner with a loss of more than 11 percent.

The declines in financials came after Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson told Congress that the market can't expect the government to bail out troubled financial companies.

"For market discipline to effectively constrain risk, financial institution must be allowed to fail," he said."

Is not Secretary Paulson a wonderful stand-in for Little Mary Sunshine? The Bear Stearns bailout notwithstanding, I'm assuming he knows of some financial institutions in trouble that have supported Democratic candidates in the past. Obviously, those must be "allowed to fail." <_<

Cynical? Moi? How could you say such a thing? 🙄
 

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