April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[CallawayGolf]

HUH?????

Exactly; not ripe means not ripe. No jurisdiction to provide a relief to the dispute between the parties means no jurisdiction to provide relief. So how can a court with a self-proclaimed lack of jurisdiction to hear the case on it's merits offer any legal opinion on the merits of the same?

 

[CallawayGolf]

In Civil Court, Judges and juries only have to consider a "preponderence" of the evidence. They can listen to both sides and determine which they believe, evidence or not. That is exactly what happened in the Ninth Circuit. NO ONE disagreed with the notion that a contract was unratifiable with the Nic included in it. When all sides agree, it's called a "stipulation". The Court did publish a legal opinion, voiced in the ruling and the transcripts of the ruling.

You lost. Go tell your lawyers before they embarass themselves again. Oops, it's probably too late for that!

And what did the judge and jury decide based on the preponderence of evidence based on the merits of the case related to the question of USAPA and its DFR in using or discarding the NIC?

 

[CallawayGolf]

see above, duplicate post.

 

[Claxon]

This is merely a MINOR DISPUTE just as your company attorney said. The end of Leonidas already happened with the MOU vote.
Marty sold you a bum steer.

 

[Claxon]

We are comfortable with our legal standing going into Judge Silver's court.
Round II
Wake was a quick decision, this will be even quicker. We are RIPE. Nothing to stop Addington this time around.

Of course you are. You have the same comfortable position you had exiting the Wake Circus, and the 9th hearings. You should be embarrassed by your legal stupidity. The fact you even refer to what happened with Wake sums it all up.

 

[EastUS1]

We are RIPE.

Well....I suppose that's one term for it...and a very kind one at that. 🙂

 

[Phoenix]

And what did the judge and jury decide based on the preponderence of evidence based on the merits of the case related to the question of USAPA and its DFR in using or discarding the NIC?

It is painfully obvious you have a misunderstanding about "merits" of the case...

"Merits" are entirely based upon the relevant facts.... and in case you missed it the 9th told you there remains a number of relevant facts that cannot be known until the contingencies work themselves out, thus it is not ripe. However, just because the 9th finds that there are some yet unknown essential relevant facts it does not mean that all relevant facts are unknown.

You have the same problem that the dissent had.... you implicitly assume that the Nic is/was binding on USAPA, and in case you missed it, the majority 9th opinion's conclusion was based on the opposite premise.

I am glad though that you are still stuck and confused trying to figure out what the 9th means.

 

[end_of_alpa]

And what did the judge and jury decide based on the preponderence of evidence based on the merits of the case related to the question of USAPA and its DFR in using or discarding the NIC?

Legal nulillity. Irrelevant.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Exactly; not ripe means not ripe. No jurisdiction to provide a relief to the dispute between the parties means no jurisdiction to provide relief. So how can a court with a self-proclaimed lack of jurisdiction to hear the case on it's merits offer any legal opinion on the merits of the same?

Well I guess we're about to find out....maybe....now aren't we!

 

[CallawayGolf]

Well I guess we're about to find out....maybe....now aren't we!

I'm not in the camp that thinks this is any more ripe than it was (or wasn't) three or five years ago. I'd be quite surprised to hear that Silver believes ripeness has occurred without a JCBA. Of course, as we discovered last year, she can change her mind rather quickly when it comes to this case.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Does anybody know the criteria the FAA uses to determine eligibility for medical Certificate with artificial limbs? Need a link.

 

[cactusboy53]

There's nothing but Date of Hire, there's nothing but Date of Hire....

https://www.youtube....h?v=ooM-RGUTe2E 😀

 

[end_of_alpa]

Does anybody know the criteria the FAA uses to determine eligibility for medical Certificate with artificial limbs? Need a link.

disregard. Found it.

 

[end_of_alpa]

https://www.youtube....h?v=ooM-RGUTe2E 😀

You made a quote that I have NEVER said and is therefore....A LIE. What I have said and have ALWAYS said is the decision is up to the majority. It has always been that way. But in this particular case the decision has already been made, you just can't face it. Poor Dave, Roger and John. The "Lost Boys".

 

[end_of_alpa]

I'm not in the camp that thinks this is any more ripe than it was (or wasn't) three or five years ago. I'd be quite surprised to hear that Silver believes ripeness has occurred without a JCBA. Of course, as we discovered last year, she can change her mind rather quickly when it comes to this case.

HEY! Now that's a FACT we can both agree with.